On 24 May 2010 at 6:52, Christopher Smith wrote:

> Your point about the music growing out of the story line is  
> even more reinforced by the use the of the verse in pre-WW2 musical 
> comedy. The verse was typically (though not always) rubato, and it is 
> WAY easier to accompany a rubato singer with a single instrument like 
> piano than with a full orchestra (such as it was.

As a continuo player who has had to follow singers in recitatives who 
didn't understand either recitative nor rhythm, I'd grant that it's 
easier for a single keyboard player to follow than for the orchestra. 
Indeed, my viol consort had exactly this problem preparing some of 
the music for our recent concert 
(http://tearesofthemuses.com/Listen/VaterUnser/), with several of the 
pieces having every expressive vocal lines, but being so closely 
integrated rhythmically with the viol lines that there was no real 
possibility of the singer(s) having the freedom they'd like to have 
had. Some of this is actually part of the development of intermediary 
styles in the tradition in which Bach was writing his cantatas. That 
is, the so-called arioso style, where you have a lot of text to get 
through, but it's set fairly melodically (with or without 
instrumental accompaniment beyond the continuo group). An example of 
this on our program was the Geist "Es war aber an der Stätte," which 
is in two parts, an arioso/accompanied recitative section followed by 
a strophic song. The first part is really not overall clearly 
delineated in style from the second, but it does have several parts 
where the instruments are just playing long held chords and waiting 
for the 8th notes in the vocal line to go by to get through the text.

I don't know what the actual tradition is, but in general, secco 
recitative involves the continuo group, i.e., keyboard plus bass 
instrument, and that's actually quite hard to coordinate. Before I 
played the viol, I'd have said the keyboard player should lead the 
continuo (following the singer), but having now played continuo bass 
line in addition to keyboard continuo, I think the player of the 
melodic bass has more control over flow of the texture than anyone 
else (at least a *good* player). On our concert, the Capricornus "O 
Traurigkeit" is a good example, where we were breaking in a first-
time continuo bass player, and he did a great job. 

My point is that it's not quite as cut-and-dried in terms of the 
keyboard player having the freedom to follow a wayward singer 
indulging in rubato -- there's actually a much more complex musical 
process going on where the continuo players and the singer play off 
each other (timing of dramatic pauses and between phrases is 
particularly important and almost entirely the responsibility of the 
continuo players, for example).

Very interesting discussion!

-- 
David W. Fenton                    http://dfenton.com
David Fenton Associates       http://dfenton.com/DFA/


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