The difference between "intermediate" and "advanced" became a bit restrictive, 
most notably with the f french horns.  The lowest written note permitted was a
F in the base clef  below middle C when I would like to take it down to the B.  
Actual pitch lowest sound would be, in "intermediate" ,  C ... but the advanced 
setting allows another full octave  bellow to the low B.  

So, as the horns are important here... the trombones have other business,  I 
would like to keep the lower range in the french horns, but I do 
not want to make the music too difficult to produce a good tone with a 
community orchestra. I have heard them play the overture to Candide,
but I have no idea of their range in that piece.

t



On May 13, 2011, at 7:41 PM, Lee Actor wrote:

> Are there specific instruments you're worried about?
> 
> -Lee
> 
>> From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu]On Behalf
>> Of timothy.price
>> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 4:22 PM
>> 
>> When we use "check range" when writing for a competent community 
>> orchestra, is there any problem with setting the
>> parameter to "advanced" for all instruments ?
>> 
>> thanks,
>> 
>> tim
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 13, 2011, at 7:09 PM, John Howell wrote:
>> 
>>> At 2:53 PM -0700 5/13/11, Mark D Lew wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Mahler writes the chorus down to Bb2 in his Symphony #2 (the 
>> basses are divisi, with the others on the next octave up).
>>> 
>>> I didn't know that, but he and Strauss also wrote some piccolo 
>> parts down to low C and flute parts down to low Bb.  The key, I 
>> think, is that he DID know who he was writing for, and knew that 
>> it would be sung, just as he knew that some flutemaker in Vienna 
>> was experimenting with extra-low flutes and piccolos and that his 
>> flute players could get them.
>>> 
>>> You write for what's available.  It's that simple.  Every time 
>> Broadwood shipped a new piano with an extended range to 
>> Beethoven, he started using the extra high and low notes 
>> immediately.  The difference with Stravinsky is that I'm not sure 
>> he could have known in advance that the extremes he wrote COULD 
>> be played.  Josquin (or Pierre de la Rue) also wrote the bass 
>> down to a low Bb at the end of "xxxx," but again we don't know 
>> what pitch standard he was writing for.  I assume that Mahler was 
>> writing for somewhere around 435 to 450, if not necessarily 440.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
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