When I need a breath mark (a high-flying comma as an articulation) to appear at the end of a measure - perhaps a measure with a whole note where the breath mark would normally appear immediately after the note, I use an invisible smart line to position the articulation where it looks logical to me. (And it stays put there in relation to the measure.) It seems to me that this is a parallel situation, and I wonder if one could create a smart line to use as a word extension with a comma at the end of the smart line and make that work.
The one I use was created by Bill Duncan, but it is easy to duplicate and modify the ones I have, so it doesn't seem daunting to create one that would do the job you want - a job that seems logical to me. I guess the question turns on how we experience the horizontal axis in music as a time graph - how proportional things need to be to make sense to us as readers and interpreters of the information. I prefer seeing things that happen at the end of a held note, or held syllable, appear along that axis more or less where I think they should occur, even if they refer back to a symbol that appears earlier on that axis. Personal preference. Chuck On Aug 7, 2011, at 9:49 AM, Eric Fiedler wrote: > As a matter of fact, the comma _after_ the word extension is not only more > logical, as Daniel has pointed out, but also standard practice in > Bärenreiter's Telemann Edition (which is what I happen to have open at the > moment) and (probably) also the NBA (the publications, not the teams!). So it > would be _really_ nice to have this option. MM, are you listening? > By the way, as Dennis 1 has pointed out, we can achieve this through the use > of hard spaces. The simplest solution is to space normally, then put a comma > on the first note after the melisma, followed by two hard spaces and the new > syllable. > Eric > ************************************************ > Habsburger Verlag Frankfurt (Dr. Fiedler) > www.habsburgerverlag.de > [email protected] > [email protected] > ************************************************ > > > On 07.08.2011, at 17:11, Mark D Lew wrote: > >> On Aug 4, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Daniel Wolf wrote: >> >>> Common practice or not (and I have found enough counter examples in my >>> library to call the "common practice" into question), it makes some >>> syntactic sense that the comma (or semi-comma) does not occur within a >>> word, and as the extension is a lengthening of the word, placing the comma >>> between the word and its extension is misleading. Moreover, having the >>> comma after the extension _could_ be useful to an interpreter, for example >>> as a suggestion for breathing. Thank you, Dennis, for your elegant >>> solution and examples. >> >> I agree with Daniel on this, and I was a little surprised to see so many >> people say or imply this is unorthodox. I've seen plenty of old sources >> that put the comma after the word extension, and I prefer it. I also had a >> regular client who asked for it that way, and I had to tell her it couldn't >> be easily done. I think this is another case where limitations of the >> software have forced a standard, and it's been long enough now that people >> think it's weird to see it any other way. >> >> mdl >> _______________________________________________ >> Finale mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > _______________________________________________ > Finale mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 1310 NW Naito Parkway #807 Portland, OR 97209-3162 land line: (971) 255-1167 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraels.com _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list [email protected] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
