With all this talk of staves, I am tempted to whip out my euphonium & play 
"Roll Out the Barrel."

Would that stave off an impending disaster?

Jim "stave is also a verb, remember!" Williams

Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos.

On Jun 14, 2012, at 4:08 PM, "Lawrence" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Because a singular line is a stave and the plural is staves. :-)
> 
> Cheers, 
> 
> Lawrence (in England)
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 14 Jun 2012, at 07:46 PM, "David H. Bailey" 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On 6/14/2012 1:59 PM, John Howell wrote:
>>> At 8:14 AM -0400 6/14/12, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
>>>> On Thu, June 14, 2012 7:36 am, Florence + Michael wrote:
>>>>> Here's what Elaine Gould writes
>>>>> "To keep the stave as uncluttered as possible
>>>> 
>>>> Just curious: Do you use 'stave' for the singular form? It sounds odd to 
>>>> me,
>>>> even though it's apparently correct. I hadn't heard this singular form 
>>>> until
>>>> recently, and wondered if it's regional?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It may well be a cross-the-pond difference, as
>>> some seem to think that a choice between "bar"
>>> and "measure" is.  (I've always used both terms
>>> interchangeably.)
>>> 
>>> To me it's always been obvious that a single
>>> staff is a staff, and the plural is staves.
>>> "Stave" as a singular feels like an incorrect
>>> derivation.  But that's just me.  I'm also
>>> careful to use "medium" as the singular of
>>> "media"; "datum" as the singular of "data"; and
>>> "timpano" as the singular of "timpani."
>>> 
>> 
>> On the other hand, if there are multiple groups of people working for an 
>> organization, they are pluralized to be "staffs."  Again for the use of 
>> the word "staff" as a wooden stick, the plural is "staffs."  So why, if 
>> the singular for a line of music is a "staff" isn't the plural "staffs?"
>> 
>> And thinking about the plural for those pieces of wood shaped to form a 
>> barrel, they are called "staves" and the singular is called "stave" as 
>> in "a barrel stave."
>> 
>> I think that somewhere long ago in history words got mistranslated out 
>> of the Italian and then misused in different English speaking areas.
>> 
>> Since we're on lexicography, can anybody explain why sharps, flats and 
>> naturals are called "accidentals?"
>> 
>> -- 
>> David H. Bailey
>> [email protected]
>> 
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