Hmm - I don't have that latency problem with the Casio, using the midi to USB cable.
Raymond Horton Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC Composer, Arranger VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Richard Yates <[email protected]> wrote: > I use the Casio with a MIDI to USB cable. There is latency before I hear it > through the computer so I turn that down and listen to the Casio directly > while doing input. I also had some kind of Korg that was not amplified and > could not tolerate the latency. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of >> Raymond Horton >> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 1:32 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Finale] MIDI woes >> >> It sounded like Phil was likely not playing in in real time. I have had a > USB Akai >> LPK25 for a couple of weeks, and the setup is instantaneous. I also have > used an >> old Casio, with a midi-to-usb adapter, and that often would take jumping > through >> hoops to get the computer or Finale to recognize. Are you able to use the > Casio with >> a non-usb input of some sort? I thought midi input cards had gone out > with Culture >> Club? >> >> Raymond Horton >> Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra >> Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC Composer, Arranger VISIT US AT >> rayhortonmusic.com >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Richard Yates <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > I have also found the latency in USB controllers to be too difficult >> > to get used to. I tried two controllers over the years on a couple >> > different machines and operating systems. For me it does not take much >> > latency to be really annoying and throw off efficiency of note entry. >> > (I have never played the tuba either!). >> > >> > So, I continue to use an ancient Casio (I found the initials 'W.A.M.' >> > scratched in the bottom by some vandal) that has its own small amp and >> > speakers built in. >> > >> > Richard Yates >> > >> >> Chuck Israels: >> >> I don't believe that latency is a built in problem with either >> >> Finale's >> > MIDI >> >> communication pipeline or with most conventional MIDI controller >> > keyboards, so I am >> >> inclined to think there is something amiss in the way the software is >> >> set >> > up (though I >> >> don't pretend to know what that might be). It's been a long time >> >> since I >> > have had >> >> similar difficulties, but in the past, a call to MM support has >> >> quickly >> > solved the >> >> problem. >> >> >> >> Perhaps a 25 key keyboard will be sufficient for your needs. You may >> >> find >> > it >> >> annoying to have to switch octaves, so that's something to consider >> >> before >> > saving a >> >> little money on something that may prove less than ideal after more > use. >> > I use an M- >> >> Audio Keystation 61 - reliable and efficient, but even that runs out >> >> of >> > range every now >> >> and then. Of course, space and portability may also be an issue. >> >> >> >> Chuck >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mar 27, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Phil Buglass <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> >> >> > I *think* that was what I tried before. The >> >> > latency made it unusable. Maybe I didn't have >> >> > it set up right, but there were no instructions with it - and I >> >> > didn't have access to this fount of knowledge! >> >> > >> >> > I had a scan through amazon this morning, and have saved 4 or 5 >> >> > different ones in my wish list. They are all under $100, and most >> >> > are >> >> > around the $60-70 mark. I just don't want to >> >> > get one until I know how it is that the system should be set up to >> >> > use >> > it. >> >> > >> >> > Phil. >> >> > >> >> > At 12:18 PM 3/27/2013, you wrote: >> >> >> You sound like a perfect candidate for the Akai LPK25. $43 and >> >> >> change at Musicians Friend. If you have a Guitar Center in town >> >> >> they should match that price if you show them the site: >> >> >> >> >> >> <http://www.musiciansfriend.com/keyboards-midi/akai-professional-l >> >> >> pk2 5-laptop-performance-keyboard?src=3WWRWXGP> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Raymond Horton >> >> >> Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra Minister of Music, >> >> >> Edwardsville >> >> >> (IN) UMC Composer, Arranger VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Phil Buglass >> >> >> <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> >>> Hi, >> >> >>> >> >> >>> I have one of those cheapo roll-up keyboards. I've had it for >> >> >>> quite a while, but never tried it out. >> >> >>> It's a bit too long, and >> >> >>> droops off my desk, for one thing. I have been >> >> >>> thinking of getting a small keyboard for inputting to Finale. I >> >> >>> don't play piano, but I can play one line at a time. Anyway, >> >> >>> before spending any more money, I decided to try out the rubber > one. >> >> >>> It works, or at least it plays by itself. Finale refuses to >> >> >>> recognise it, though. Windows recognises it as a generic usb >> >> >>> midi controller, but for some reason the signal isn't being taken >> >> >>> by Finale. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> One thing is, the usb/midi cable I have has a fork with in and >> >> >>> out midi connectors on it. The keyboard only has a single midi > port. >> >> >>> If I plug one end of the Y in, the led on the doodad >> >> >>> flashes, but it flashes as input. I assume that >> >> >>> it is talking about input into the keyboard, but I could be wrong. >> >> >>> It has happened once or twice before! If I plug the other end >> >> >>> in, I don't get either light flashing. In both cases, it is >> >> >>> playing the notes itself, but the program isn't interested. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Like I said, I don't really care if this one works or not, but I >> >> >>> don't want to spend money on a better one, if I can't get it to >> >> >>> work. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> In the audio setup dialogue, I have input set to directsound - if >> >> >>> I use ASIO, I don't get any output from the program at all. For >> >> >>> mike source, I have it set to primary sound capture driver - the >> >> >>> only option. When I come back into it, this field has usually >> >> >>> set itself to blank. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Is there some esoteric setting somewhere that I >> >> >>> am missing? The user guide is not a lot of help on this subject. >> >> >>> I tried a midi controller some years back, and returned it >> >> >>> because my cakewalk would not recognise it. Oh, and it also had >> >> >>> about 2 seconds of latency! >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Any advice welcome... >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Phil. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. >> >> >>> Inside of a dog it's too dark to read." - Groucho Marx >> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >> >>> Finale mailing list >> >> >>> [email protected] >> >> >>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Finale mailing list >> >> >> [email protected] >> >> >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. >> >> > Inside of a dog it's too dark to read." - Groucho Marx >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > Finale mailing list >> >> > [email protected] >> >> > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> > >> >> >> >> Chuck Israels >> >> 8831 SE 12th Ave. >> >> Portland, OR 97202-7097 >> >> >> >> land line: (503) 954-2107 >> >> cell phone: (360) 201-3434 >> >> >> >> <www.chuckisraelsjazz.com> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Finale mailing list >> >> [email protected] >> >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Finale mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Finale mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > _______________________________________________ > Finale mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list [email protected] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
