Sorry!

I'll try it some, see how it goes and report back.

RBH


On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 10:18 PM, Phil Buglass <[email protected]> wrote:
> I was *trying* to play in real time...
>
> At 04:31 PM 3/27/2013, you wrote:
>>It sounded like Phil was likely not playing in in real time.  I have
>>had a USB Akai LPK25 for a couple of weeks, and the setup is
>>instantaneous.  I also have used an old Casio, with a midi-to-usb
>>adapter, and that often would take jumping through hoops to get the
>>computer or Finale to recognize.  Are you able to use the Casio with a
>>non-usb input of some sort?  I thought midi input cards had gone out
>>with Culture Club?
>>
>>Raymond Horton
>>Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
>>Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
>>Composer, Arranger
>>VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com
>>
>>
>>On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Richard Yates
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>> > I have also found the latency in USB controllers to be too difficult to get
>> > used to. I tried two controllers over the years on a couple different
>> > machines and operating systems. For me it does not take much latency to be
>> > really annoying and throw off efficiency of
>> note entry. (I have never played
>> > the tuba either!).
>> >
>> > So, I continue to use an ancient Casio (I found the initials 'W.A.M.'
>> > scratched in the bottom by some vandal) that has its own small amp and
>> > speakers built in.
>> >
>> > Richard Yates
>> >
>> >> Chuck Israels:
>> >> I don't believe that latency is a built in problem with either Finale's
>> > MIDI
>> >> communication pipeline or with most conventional MIDI controller
>> > keyboards, so I am
>> >> inclined to think there is something amiss in the way the software is set
>> > up (though I
>> >> don't pretend to know what that might be).  It's been a long time since I
>> > have had
>> >> similar difficulties, but in the past, a call to MM support has quickly
>> > solved the
>> >> problem.
>> >>
>> >> Perhaps a 25 key keyboard will be sufficient for your needs.  You may find
>> > it
>> >> annoying to have to switch octaves, so that's something to consider before
>> > saving a
>> >> little money on something that may prove less than ideal after more use.
>> > I use an M-
>> >> Audio Keystation 61 - reliable and efficient, but even that runs out of
>> > range every now
>> >> and then.  Of course, space and portability may also be an issue.
>> >>
>> >> Chuck
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mar 27, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Phil Buglass <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > I *think* that was what I tried before.  The
>> >> > latency made it unusable.   Maybe I didn't have
>> >> > it set up right, but there were no instructions with it - and I didn't
>> >> > have access to this fount of knowledge!
>> >> >
>> >> > I had a scan through amazon this morning, and have saved 4 or 5
>> >> > different ones in my wish list.  They are all under $100, and  most
>> >> > are
>> >> > around the $60-70 mark.   I just don't want to
>> >> > get one until I know how it is that the system should be set up to  use
>> > it.
>> >> >
>> >> > Phil.
>> >> >
>> >> > At 12:18 PM 3/27/2013, you wrote:
>> >> >> You sound like a perfect candidate for the Akai LPK25.  $43 and
>> >> >> change at Musicians Friend.  If you have a Guitar Center in town they
>> >> >> should match that price if you show them the site:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> <http://www.musiciansfriend.com/keyboards-midi/akai-professional-lpk2>>
>>  >> 5-laptop-performance-keyboard?src=3WWRWXGP>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Raymond Horton
>> >> >> Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra Minister of Music, Edwardsville
>> >> >> (IN) UMC Composer, Arranger VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Phil Buglass <[email protected]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >>> Hi,
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I have one of those cheapo roll-up
>> >> >>> keyboards.  I've had it for quite a while, but never tried it out.
>> >> >>> It's a bit too long, and
>> >> >>> droops off my desk, for one thing.   I have been
>> >> >>> thinking of getting a small keyboard for inputting to Finale.  I
>> >> >>> don't play piano, but I can play one line at a time.  Anyway, before
>> >> >>> spending any more money, I decided to try out the rubber one.
>> >> >>> It works, or at least it plays by itself.  Finale refuses to
>> >> >>> recognise it, though.  Windows recognises it as a generic usb midi
>> >> >>> controller, but for some reason the signal isn't being taken by
>> >> >>> Finale.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> One thing is, the usb/midi cable I have has a fork with in and out
>> >> >>> midi connectors on it.  The keyboard only has a single midi port.
>> >> >>> If I plug one end of the Y in, the led on the doodad
>> >> >>> flashes, but it flashes as input.   I assume that
>> >> >>> it is talking about input into the keyboard, but I could be wrong.
>> >> >>> It has happened once or twice before!  If I plug the other end in, I
>> >> >>> don't get either light flashing.  In both cases, it is playing the
>> >> >>> notes itself, but the program isn't interested.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Like I said, I don't really care if this one works or not, but I
>> >> >>> don't want to spend money on a better one, if I can't get it to
>> >> >>> work.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> In the audio setup dialogue, I have input set to directsound - if I
>> >> >>> use ASIO, I don't get any output from the program at all.  For mike
>> >> >>> source, I have it set to primary sound capture driver - the only
>> >> >>> option.  When I come back into it, this field has usually set itself
>> >> >>> to blank.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Is there some esoteric setting somewhere that I
>> >> >>> am missing?   The user guide is not a lot of help on this subject.
>> >> >>> I tried a midi controller some years back, and returned it because
>> >> >>> my cakewalk would not recognise it.  Oh, and it also had about 2
>> >> >>> seconds of latency!
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Any advice welcome...
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Phil.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
>> >> >>> Inside of a dog it's too dark to read." - Groucho Marx
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