Thanks, Robert, for your help.  I don’t think I need to see the files.  The 
issue which I failed to mention is that there is little room on the score for 
extra staves.  I will need to figure out a way to have the notes hanging above 
the vocal stave.  I guess I was hoping there might be a symbol I could place 
above the stave, rather than an actual note which would create ledger lines.  
I appreciate your quick reply!
Lee

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Robert Patterson
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 12:15 PM
To: finale <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Finale] Finger snap and patsch symbols

In Orff Schulwerk this kind of thing is notated on 1-line percussion staves. So 
you would have a single line for snaps and a separate single line for side 
pats. The noteheads would be normal noteheads.

However you notate it, in Orff at least, the children won't be reading the 
notation. The teachers teach it to the children by rote.

I can send you sample scan of an Orff piece if you are interested. The scan I 
happen to have has 2 groups who each shout words, clap, and snap. All three 
activities have their own 1-line staff.


On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 11:07 AM, Christopher Smith < 
[email protected]> wrote:

> If it is actually for children to read, it might be better to use 
> more-or-less standard notation. That would be X-head notes with an 
> English text just above saying “finger snap”. I usually see this on 
> the 3rd space of the staff when it is JUST finger snaps. For the side 
> pat, you should probably put the X-head note on a different space 
> (probably lower) to differentiate it, but still with the text.
>
> I doubt there is anything truly standard, but if there is, jef 
> chippewa would know it!
>
> Christopher
>
>
> > On Feb 25, 2017, at 11:53 AM, Lee Dengler <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > I am writing a piece for children that has side pats (patsch) and 
> > finger snaps.  The side pats occur on beats 1 & 3 and the finger 
> > snaps on beats
> 2 &
> > 4.  Does anyone know if there is a commonly used symbol for these 
> > two motions?
> >
> > Thanks to anyone who can help!
> >
> > Lee Dengler
> >
> > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> >
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