When I decided on the CP5225 I also looked at one of the large monochrome laser printer. (It was HP M-something, probably essentially the same as Lee's.) I ultimately chose the CP5225 because
1) the CP5225 was about $1000 cheaper 2) the CP5225 does color, which has uses for me outside music 3) HP may be discontinuing those big monochrome lasers. The one I found seemed like it was left-over inventory. 4) The HP M is significantly larger and heavier. I would have had trouble fitting it where it has to go, even with a helper. This was probably the deciding factor for me. What I gave up was 1) 1200dpi. (The CP5225 only does 600.) 2) A tray with 12x18 capacity. (But I can still hand-feed 12x18.) So far I am quite pleased with the performance. I also find the duplexer to be completely reliable. My previous printer was 1200dpi and could feed up to 13x20. It was dissatisfying to give those up, but I'm still very happy with the results I am getting. On Sat, Apr 28, 2018 at 6:44 PM, Lee Actor <[email protected]> wrote: > I've had an HP5000 since 2001 and have printed much music with it. Years > ago I tried the duplexer for it, but found it to be unreliable, at least > with the heavyweight paper I use. > > I kept my eye on the large format laser printer market for a long time, > and 2+ years ago finally bit the bullet and bought a HP M712DN (1200dpi) at > a huge discount. This machine has been an absolute dream. The duplexer is > 100% reliable; I have never had a paper jam or misfeed the entire time I've > owned it. I use it exclusively to print music, and keep heavyweight letter > and 11x17 paper in its two paper trays. It's 4-5x faster than the LJ5000, > and has saved me innumerable hours printing orchestral parts and scores. > With the HP5000 I had to manually feed the flip side of duplexed pages to > avoid paper jams, requiring my constant attention throughout a large print > job; but with the M712DN I can send it as many print jobs as needed and > immediately get back to what I was doing, letting the printer churn away > until it's done. There's still the folding/stapling/trimming/binding > etc. to produce finished sheet music, but my time involved with the actual > printing has been reduced by as much as 95%. > > The main downside to the M712DN is that it is quite large, and weighs 85 > lbs.; definitely a 2-person job to pick it up and move it around. But it's > the biggest productivity enhancement I've encountered since engraving > software. > > -Lee > > -----Original Message----- > From: Finale [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 11:56 AM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Finale] printing advice > > Dear Chuck and Robert, > > Thank you! All I needed to do was to ask the printer preferences to find > and add the HP5000 printer again (IP address from the printer’s info page). > I should have figured this out on my own. For some reason, this was vastly > easier than the initial time I was forced to print over IP (at the point > when appletalk disappeared from macs). And that first IP connection has > survived through at least 3 machine and many system upgrades. > > What a great machine! Still going after all these years. 1200 dpi, or 600 > dpi at super speed, long-lasting printer cartridges (shockingly, still > available as OEM). Granted, I don’t use it very heavily, but still, it is, > by far, the oldest technology in my house. 25 years old sounds about right. > > David > > Chuck Israels wrote: > > Dear David, > > > > This is exactly the setup I have (iMac - not Macbook) ? the printer must > be 25 years old! > > > > In my case, this has happened and removing the printer and adding it > again in the System Preferences/printer setup has solved the problem. I > think the Mac loses th IP address and sometimes generates another new one. > I don?t think it has to do with the particular OS you are using. > > > > Hope this helps, > > > > Chuck > > > >> On Apr 28, 2018, at 6:25 AM, [email protected] wrote: > >> > >> Hello all, > >> I?ve been using an HP5000 printer for a very long time. It still works > great. I installed a card that allowed it to print via ethernet (so, in > essence, it is a HP5000N). It is a 600dpi, large-format, laser printer. > >> > >> I use a MacBook, running Sierra (not High Sierra). Suddenly, with the > last system upgrade from Apple (to 10.12.6), the printer is no longer found. > >> > >> Is anyone on the list using a setup similar to mine, who experienced > the same problem and has a solution? > >> > >> Or, perhaps, could someone make recommendations for a reliable printer > that can print up to 12x18? > >> > >> Hoping for help! > >> > >> David Froom: text/plain; charset="UTF-8” > > and Robert Patterson wrote: > > > > I think Chuck's suggestion of dropping and re-adding the printer is the > > right first step. It looks like HP has stopped supporting the 5000. If > > dropping and re-adding it doesn't work (as Chuck suggested), I have some > > further suggestions. > > > > 1) Download the appropriate driver from the hp website and reinstall it. > It > > looks like your driver may not have been updated since macOS 10.6. But it > > still might work. > > > > 2) Create a virtual machine of a lower macOS version and print from > there. > > I did this for years with my previous large-format printer, which ceased > to > > function correctly starting with Mavericks. Considering my usage > patterns, > > for me it was not a noticeable hardship to start up the virtual for a > print > > job. > > > > 3) If you are in the mood for a new printer, I just bought a HP Color > > Laserjet CP5225 that I am very happy with. With the manual feeder I can > go > > as large as 12.5"x18.5". (The tray goes up to 11x17.) It is not > super-fast, > > but the results are so much better than my previous printer which had > been > > slowly dying for a number of years. (And it isn't any slower than that > one > > was.) Plus it does color! It's not great for photo printing, but for > adding > > color accents to a document it is perfect. It is larger and heavier than > I > > would like. If I live long enough to replace it, I probably won't try to > > move it again by myself. It really needs two people to lift it safely. > > > > Final note: if you order a CP5225, make sure you get the one that has an > > automatic duplexer. You have to manually duplex oversize (larger than > > 11x17) sheets, but it is very handy for 11x17 and smaller, and it adds > > almost no additional cost. > > > and Chuck Israels wrote: > > > > And I forgot another thing: there is a way (in the menus on the printer > settings) to have the printer print a page that has its IP address (it > sometimes randomly generates a new one). Don?t remember where that is, but > there is printer setting that prints out a page with "Printer > Information?. I keep a copy of the IP address it prints out taped to the > side of the printer so I can tell the Mac where it is, if it doesn?t find > it automatically. > > > > Every time something like this happens and I think I need a new printer, > a cure turns up and the HP 5000N soldiers on. > > > > For B&W large format ? others have recommended a Ricoh model, but I am > still using the HP. > > > > Chuck > > > _______________________________________________ > Finale mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > [email protected] > > > _______________________________________________ > Finale mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > [email protected] > _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list [email protected] https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: [email protected]
