KDE's manager works OK--you just have to shut off the desktop.
Windowmaker works, too--you use the function keys to bring up the menus
that you normally get from clicking on the desktop. Fvwm2 also worked
OK for me.
For a non-fink option OroborOSX (oroborosx.sourceforge.net) is designed
for rootless operation.
On Wed, 2002-08-28 at 11:33, andy law (RI) wrote:
> John,
>
> Its a twm (or at least an XDarwin rootless) thing.
>
> I'm assuming that you are running XDarwin rootless? otherwise I'm talking out of my
>proverbial. Basically, when you launch an X application and you're using twm, the
>window should intially appear as an outline tied to the position of the cursor. As
>you move the cursor, the window outline moves so you can position the window where
>you want. When you click the mouse (left button), the window appears fully formed at
>that location. Unfortunately running XDarwin rootless trips up this behaviour on 2
>counts. Firstly, the window outlines are not drawn at all. The only clue you get that
>something is happening is that the cursor changes to an inverted 'L' shape. This
>shows where the top left of the window will appear when you clear. While this is
>happening, XDarwin helpfully draws a 'button' representing the iconised application
>in the top left corner of your screen(s).Secondly, clicking on the (Mac OS X)
>desktop, or any non XDarwin window shifts focus away from XDarwin (and hence t
he application you have just launched) . You then need to go back to XDarwin and
click on the button icon to get the window to open up.
>
> The only way to get the window to draw immediately after launch is to make sure that
>you click the mouse somewhere over another XDarwin window, rather than over a window
>from a different application or over the desktop (or run in full screen mode).
>
> Incidentally, the lack of window outlines also becomes apparent when moving or
>resizing windows under rootless setup. Try running under full screen to see the
>difference.
>
> If anyone has recommendations for window managers that provide good rootless
>behaviour, I'd love to hear from them.
>
> Later,
>
> Andy
>
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Gnaegy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 28 August 2002 02:59
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [Fink-beginners] windows appear initially as buttons?
> >
> >
> >
> > I installed fink, selfupdated it using CVS, and got gimp
> > installed. I'm
> > using TWM. Gimp runs and works fine, but the weird thing is that any
> > new window initially appears as a button, a small rectangle
> > showing only
> > the window title. Clicking on the button open the window to
> > normal size
> > and behavior.
> >
> > Is this normal? Is this default TWM behavior, or some preference
> > setting in gimp? If it's a preference how could I change it?
> > If it's
> > specific to TWM I can just install another window manager.
> >
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