Will Oram wrote:
This is a long question, so bear with me. :)
Right now I'm mud wrestling with Fink and X11 after a recent (legal) installation of Panther.
Fink on Panther is not yet ready for beginners. If you want to do anything there, you have to have the Panther dev tools (Xcode), the 10.2-gcc3.3 or 10.3 tree, the latest fink (the program) from cvs, and if you don't know how to get this, you shouldn't be expecting anything to work. Anyway...
Up until now Panther and the beta of X11 have worked in harmony.
beta? If you have Panther, you have X11-1.0, no beta. From what you are writing, one could suspect that you want to run an old compiler and an old version of X11 (plus an old version of Fink) on Panther. Won't work.
When I wanted to install Pan (the X11 newsreader), Fink claimed there was already a free86 node. The suggestion to update fink didn't help.
There are a lot of explanations on the Fink FAQ and in the list archives about this. There is one legitimate reason for failure, this is that the pango1-xft2 package in the 10.2/unstable tree has been broken for a long time and doesn't work with non-fink xfree86-4.3.0 (of which Apple X11-1.0 is a special case).
Fink also noted my free86 version was old and fractured, and suggested I reinstall. When I tried...it wouldn't let me. Apprently it didn't like my copy of X11. I figured I'd reinstall X11 then.
But I can't install X11 because the installer claims I have 'newer software' on my HD already. So I trashed everything I could find with the phrase 'X11' in it. The installer STILL says the same thing. I trash fink on top of that and start over.
Maybe the "newer software" is Panther?
I try to install free86 fresh. Fink now complains I don't have a valid C compiler. What, did some files disappear while I wasn't looking? I've always had gcc. So I try to get a new gcc version using the cvs command...but Terminal doesn't recognise 'cvs' either. What's going on?
It might be best to help me with the last paragraph and move backwards. :)
It really seems you are back to square one. If you don't have /usr/bin/cvs, your dev tools are seriously incomplete. OTOH, "new gcc using cvs"? Are you sure you have thought about this?
IMHO your best bet is to relax, play with the new Panther for a week and hope the Panther-ready Fink comes out soon. NB, I am not patronizing (at least not more than usual), I am in a similar situation: I could get Panther easily (they are running around everywhere out there in the jungle ;-) ), but getting Xcode is a different story, and without Xcode, you can't run Fink on Panther right now.
-- Martin
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