On Feb 17, 2005, at 11:51 AM, Ev Batey WA6CRE wrote:

AKH,

Thank you .. When the next newbies FAQ goes out .. It might be very
helpful to add a couple of items:

- "THIS IS HOW YOU NEED TO BE" configuration wise before
adding anything .. a must do in this order list.
- Here are the commands gtk --version, glibs --version, gnome
--version, fink --version .. etc to see if you are ready.
Most / many of those dependency major modules are NOT
obvious how to discover which version is both present and
in users current path. Many of the discover version commands
run against a file that IS NOT the same name as the package..
at least that has been my experience with FreeBSD / BSD / Linux

Fink packages are _supposed_ to deal with these automatically (sometimes it doesn't quite work out that way)--there are versioned dependencies as appropriate.

It's only a pain if a versioned dependency is missing and somebody decides to copy a package description file from unstable rather than to turn on the whole tree.

- Probably a tree like mapping of how to get to the major destinations
under the Fink Tree ..


Noted--I'm a bit behind on what I want to do for the docs, but I'll add this to the queue.

MY Question for the day .. Last I booted / logged in and my Aqua
came up .. my X11 starter / menu button came up ..
I have installed the GNOME Bundle .. no errors reported .. I have
gone off to the sourceforge..fink.. X11 xinitrc page ..

Is there a way without logging off I can exec any of the
contents of the planned ~/.xinitrc for rootless GNOME ..
_without_ installing that .xinitrc file in place to test ..


Somewhat. You have to have a window manager of some sort running, but you can run "gnome-session" from an X11 terminal. You will get a lot of complaints because GNOME doesn't like Apple's quartz-wm windowmanager (the default for Apple's X11).

.xintirc (and the system's own /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc) are just shell scripts, so anything that's in them can also be run from a terminal. The only issue is that once X11 has started it won't let you run a second window manager.

I guess I got GNOME 2.2 with Fink ..

I'd bet you have 2.4, since that's the base version for 10.3--verify this via "fink list bundle-gnome"

To start GNOME 2.2 under Apple's X11, use the following sequence:

. /sw/bin/init.sh
quartz-wm --only-proxy &
metacity &
exec gnome-session


If in fact you're on 2.4 you can leave out the "metacity &" command--it's redundant because metacity is started as part of "gnome-session" in this version.

If I am then ugly .. I would not have to try to reboot in terminal mode
to undo the damage ???


No rebooting needed. Quit X11 (though the typical worst-case error is that X11 crashes). Usually what's happened is that something is missing in your .xinitrc (like a window manager).


R/ Everett F Batey II - http://www.cotdazr.org
WA6CRE / 800 545-6998 - SoCal 805 340-6471


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