On 2 Jul 2005, at 13:20, Chris Zubrzycki wrote:

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On Jul 2, 2005, at 1:07 PM, David H. wrote:


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Kevin Horton wrote:


On 2 Jul 2005, at 10:26, Peter O'Gorman wrote:



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Kevin Horton wrote:
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| I don't know what to call the new tree - I originally thought that
| "testing" could work, but after looking at the way Debian does
things  I
| think this would simply cause confusion. How about "kamikaze"? That | would certainly push the idea that people should only enable this new
| tree if they were prepared for things to break.


I don't know if that is a good idea. Many times the reason a package stays in the queue is because it is badly written. Depends not right, policies not followed, etc.

Well, there are over 100 packages in the tracker with group as "Undergoing Validation", some of them dating back to 2003. In principle, the "Undergoing Validation" packages are waiting for core- developers to look at. Every few months someone will mention the backlog in the tracker, and that motivates some developers to make the time to focus on the tracker for a week or two. But, they can't keep up that level of activity indefinitely, so the backlog builds again. And if you ever are successful at keeping the tracker moving on a sustainable basis, I predict that many small-time submitter like myself will just start submitting more packages. I suspect that many people like myself have simply given up and stopped submitting new packages, or updates for old ones.

There needs to be a minimum entry level for packages to be able to be automatically submitted. Usually once a porter has a few packages, they get cvs privs if they ask for it. We were throwing around some ideas on #fink for easier automatic validation in different trees, but there still needs to be some way for us to know that the porter knows what he is doing, and knows the fink policies.

The current process is broken, IMHO. If there isn't a way to fix it, I'm ready to start putting my packages up on my web server, and telling people to copy the .info and .patch files to their local tree. I realize that this is a drastic step, so I am hoping that the fink team can find a solution to the perennial package tracker backlog


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