-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 4/5/11 8:34 AM, Max Horn wrote: > Hi there, > > we have a bunch of "obsolete" packages, which typically only still exist to > smoothly and automatically transit users to their successor packages. > Typically, such packages depend on fink-obsolete-packages, which marks them > as obsolete. > > However, I just realized that end users may not be fully aware of this > "obsoleteness" and what it exactly means in many cases. This is made worse by > the fact that obsolete packages very often have not very helpful > descriptions. Consider a few examples: > > alpine 2.00-108 Old version of a text-based > email client > pine 4.64-1100 Old version of a text-based > email client > pine-ssl 4.64-1100 Old version of a text-based > email client > > -> the user is not told that "alpine" and "pine" do not actually contain pine > anymore, but rather are just dummies and that re-alpine is the real package > that's been installed silently. Yes, "fink info alpine" etc. will tell the > truth, but not everybody will check there. > > Another example: > gftp-ssl 2.0.19-1 Obsolete, gftp is now unified > The term "unified" means nothing to a user. > > And so on. I would like to propose that all obsolete packages receive a > common, uniform description, namely: > > "OBSOLETE use FOO instead" > or maybe better > "OBSOLETE use package 'FOO' instead" > > or something like that. Likewise, the DescDetail could be unified. Of course > this change would have to go along with a revision increment. We may want to > > > Thoughts? > > > Cheers, > Max
I found one issue when I was trying to make a package obsolete: $ fink dumpinfo -fdescription treeline Information about 10150 packages read in 1 seconds. description: OBSOLETE use 'treeline-x11' package instead $ fink validate /sw32/fink/dists/unstable/main/finkinfo/utils/treeline-1.2.4-3.info Validating package file /sw32/fink/dists/unstable/main/finkinfo/utils/treeline-1.2.4-3.info... Warning: Description contains package name. (treeline-1.2.4-3.info) This is fatal in maintainer mode. - -- Alexander Hansen, Ph.D. Fink User Liaison http://finkakh.wordpress.com/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk2mJvoACgkQB8UpO3rKjQ+HngCgmWFWOCoNf+C5gag2KefF2BwU h5UAn3oKutHsOhRsvdE2dv3uFFduN7bF =LEYT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial Workload Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server virtualization is a top priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, simplify management, and improve application availability and disaster protection. Learn more about boosting the value of server virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev _______________________________________________ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net List archive: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.apple.fink.devel Subscription management: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
