Sent this earlier, but not to the list. Oops. Sorry if you get a
duplicate. (I've created a petition since writing this, so just mentally
rearrange the bottom section there so that it approximates reality :)

On Tue, 14 May 2002, Ben Hines wrote:

> At 10:26 PM -0400 5/14/02, Erik Price wrote:
> >On Tuesday, May 14, 2002, at 09:01  PM, Ben Hines wrote:
> >
> >>Hint: submit this story to http://www.macintouch.com/ and get them
> >>to publish  it - you will find a whole crop of mac users who want
> >>to use Exchange. In fact, i bet you could find Mac-centric arms of
> >>certain exchange-using companies who might be interested in the
> >>product.
> >
> >I was thinking the same thing of http://slashdot.org/ -- different
> >crowd (the Unix-geeks-turned-Mac-customers) but more likely to have
> >X11 running on OS X.
>
>
> I think folks will be willing to install X11 if it means they can use
> their macs with exchange.


Certainly something like OroborOSX makes this almost painless.
Unfortunately, it looks like Evolution has a huge number of
dependencies:

  gal19, db31, freetype2, libjpeg, libpng, libtiff, netpbm,
  audiofile, esound, glib, gtk+, orbit, readline, giflib, imlib,
  bonobo-dev, control-center-dev, gconf-dev, glibwww, gnome-libs-dev,
  gnome-print-dev, gtkhtml-dev, oaf-dev, guile-dev, libwww, popt

...and I'm sure those in turn require others. Not that installing all
this stuff is particularly hard -- it's just a "fink install evolution"
away -- but I suspect it'll be slow to get to 500 users quickly if that
much [unstable?] software needs to be installed first.

Well, maybe. Actually I have no idea how many people are using Fink
regularly. Maybe the number is way higher than that anyway.

In any case, I suspect this will catch on only slowly until all of this
stuff moves into stable if it isn't already, and binary versions become
available. This needs to be as easy as possible.


I'm thinking of submitting this to a few web sites today, if no one has
any objections. Would anyone want to try setting up an online petition to
guage interest? I think petitiononline.com does this for free, but I've
never used it from that angle before. Looks pretty easy from the form:
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/create_petition.html. You get to ask up to
four questions -- I think we should ask

  [1] are you using X11 on OSX now, or would you be willing to?
  [2] are you using Fink now, or would you be willing to compile
      Evolution by yourself, with or without Fink's assistance?
  [3] are you in an environment that requires Exchange2000 use?

Maybe another, maybe different ones. I'll come back & look at it later
today if I get a chance to. Anyone want to take a crack at the main promo
blurb for a petition?


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