> On Nov 16, 2014, at 7:26, Alexander Hansen <alexanderk.han...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2014, at 7:21 AM, Sean Lake <odysseus9...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 16, 2014, at 7:13, Alexander Hansen <alexanderk.han...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 16, 2014, at 7:02 AM, Sean Lake <odysseus9...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 16, 2014, at 6:55, Alexander Hansen <alexanderk.han...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 15, 2014, at 6:53 PM, Sean Lake <odysseus9...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ok, fixed it. Installed Oracle’s Java.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 2014, at 17:52, Sean Lake <odysseus9...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I’m getting multiple packages, especially gnucash2, complaining about 
>>>>>>> the lack of system-java16-dev on my new mac. I’ve installed 
>>>>>>> java_for_os_x_2013005_dp__11m4609.dmg, but it doesn’t seem to have 
>>>>>>> rectified the problem. Running fink apropos java, I get:
>>>>>>> i      system-java     1.6.0-1 [virtual package representing Java 1.6.0]
>>>>>>> i      system-java16   1.6.0-1 [virtual package representing Java 1.6.0]
>>>>>>>    system-java16-dev       1.6.0-1 [virtual package representing Java 
>>>>>>> 1.6.0 development headers]
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What do I need to install to get that last package?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> sudo fink install gnucash2
>>>>>>> Password:
>>>>>>> Information about 10219 packages read in 0 seconds.
>>>>>>> Can't resolve dependency "system-java-dev" for package 
>>>>>>> "bison-legacy-2.7.1-1"
>>>>>>> (no matching packages/versions found)
>>>>>>> Exiting with failure.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> fink --version
>>>>>>> Package manager version: 0.38.2
>>>>>>> Distribution version: selfupdate-rsync Sat Nov 15 14:55:28 2014, 10.10, 
>>>>>>> x86_64
>>>>>>> Trees: local/main stable/main stable/crypto
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sorry for the confusion here.  We have two versions of the availability 
>>>>> code for virtual packages;
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1)  The package shows up in the list as not installed if it isn’t 
>>>>> detected.
>>>>> 2)  The package doesn’t show up in the list at all if it isn’t detected.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I prefer 2) to be used for virtual packages which are impossible to 
>>>>> install on certain OS versions, and 1) for packages which are always 
>>>>> possible to satisfy.   We might want to switch system-java-dev over to 
>>>>> 1).  Option 1) has fink go through an install procedure and then gives a 
>>>>> more verbose error message, so it seems more appropriate here.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Alexander Hansen, Ph.D.
>>>>> Fink User Liaison
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks, but I don’t know if that would address the issue I was having. 
>>>> 
>>>> In this particular case, installing Apple’s latest Java didn’t satisfy the 
>>>> requirement for system-java16-dev. That tells me that either the detection 
>>>> in system-java16-dev is busted, or Apple’s Java is broken in a way that 
>>>> makes it unable to fulfill that need. If it is the latter case, it would 
>>>> be helpful if the instructions on 10.10 were updated to specify Oracle’s 
>>>> Java is needed.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks again,
>>>> Sean
>>> 
>>> The detection system worked just fine for me when last I checked it (a 
>>> couple of weeks ago).
>>> 
>>> When you say “Apple’s latest java”, does that mean the legacy SDK?  
>>> http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1572 
>>> Your package list suggests not.
>>> 
>>> What java is needed depends on the package.  Some packages just want _a_ 
>>> Java, and some won’t build using Oracle’s.  Other older packagers may want 
>>> system-java16 because at the time it was the newest option.
>>> -- 
>>> Alexander Hansen, Ph.D.
>>> Fink User Liaison
>>> 
>> 
>> I installed the files available from Apple’s developer site in the dmg file 
>> named: java_for_os_x_2013005_dp__11m4609.dmg . It was the newest Java 
>> installer Apple had listed on developer.apple.com’s developer member site. 
>> That file you linked is newer (2013–005 vs 2014-001), so I’ll install it. 
>> Regardless, all of the packages I installed seemed happy with the Oracle 
>> install I did.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Sean
> 
> The 2014-001 package definitely suffices for system-java16-dev.  No clue why 
> it’s not listed developer.apple.com, but we definitely can be more explicit 
> about where to get it.
> 
> -- 
> Alexander Hansen, Ph.D.
> Fink User Liaison
> 

Thanks! :)

Sean


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