On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 10:57 AM, Stefan Bruda <ste...@bruda.ca> wrote:

> At 10:02 -0400 on 2016-6-2 Jack Howarth wrote:
>  >
>  > So I assume you are talking about using extensions to emacs like
>  > https://github.com/Malabarba/spinner.el/blob/master/README.org
>  > rather than just the stock configuration?
>
> Strangely enough this is (was, see below) all standard configuration.
> After some thought I realized that it is quite possible that any
> Athena item could cause the crash.  Sure enough, attempting to open a
> file using the menu (which opens a dialogue) rather than the shortcut
> (which uses the minibuffer) would cause the same kind of crash.  In
> the end I concluded that the Athena library is the culprit.  I thus
> rebuilt libxaw3dxft and libxaw3dxft-shlibs, then rebuilt xemacs, and
> sure enough everything appears to be back in working order.
>

The only change that I can imagine happening on the rebuild of  libxaw3dxft
is that the linkage on libXt is switched from the flat-namespace copy,
/opt/X11/lib/libXt.6.dylib, to the newer two-level namespace
one, /opt/X11/lib/libXt.7.dylib. If this fixes xemacs, it is the total
opposite situation from motif (where the flat-namespace copy of libXt is
required),


>  > If so, it might be worth installing MacPorts (using their binary
>  > repo) and trying their xemacs.
>
> Fortunately this is no longer necessary.
>
>  > Both of our packages are based on the 21.4.22 release whereas many
>  > of the linux releases are based on newer development snapshots of
>  > xemacs.  Note that MacPorts tried to switch to those but backed off
>  > to the 21.4.22 release for stability.
>
> The 21.5 branch does not add any Earth-shattering features really so
> sticking with the tried and true seems to be the way to go.
>
> In case you are wondering why am I insisting on using a dinosaur such
> as XEmacs, I tried really hard to like the shiny new stuff and kind of
> failed.  Having lost XEmacs on my main machine (however temporarily)
> and thus my email client I have switched to the latest and greatest
> namely, GNU Emacs 24.x.  The transition was kind of painless, though I
> did have to get several elisp packages to reproduce behaviour already
> included in XEmacs and I missed the ability to have buttons in the
> menu bar.  This being said, GNU Emacs is dog slow compared to the gool
> ol' XEmacs.  For example, hitting reply in XEmacs produces the
> composition frame quasi-instantaneously, while in GNU Emacs I get to
> enjoy watching the frame opening for several seconds before having a
> composition buffer...
>
> I any event, thank you for all the suggestions and sorry for the rant.
> I hope that the information about libxaw3dxft is useful.
>
> Cheers,
> Stefan
>
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