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From: "Cory Hojka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 6:14 PM
Subject: [inbox] "Laws Limiting Gun Access Cut Teen Suicides"


>
http://www.forbes.com/lifestyle/health/feeds/hscout/2004/08/03/hscout520475.html
>
> Laws Limiting Gun Access Cut Teen Suicides
> By Ed Edelson
> HealthDay Reporter
>
> TUESDAY, Aug. 3 (HealthDayNews) -- Laws designed to keep guns away from
young
> people reduce the risk that teenagers will kill themselves, a study finds.
>
> In states with so-called child access prevention (CAP) laws, the suicide
rate
> for youths aged 14 to 17 was 8.3 percent lower than in states without such

This is very interesting.  CDC's age categories go from 10 to 14 and 15 to
19.  There isn't
any easy way to check this claim for ages 14 to 17.  Why use this category
rather than say,
all minors?  Or everyone in the 15 to 19 range?  Or 10 to 19?  It makes you
wonder if they
have picked the age range very carefully to get the right results.

> laws, say researchers at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public
Health.
> The report appears in the Aug. 4 issue of the Journal of the American
Medical
> Association.
>
> Suicide is the third leading cause of death in the 10-to-19 age group, and
as
> recently as 1994 seven of every 10 teen suicides involved firearms, the
report
> noted. The decreased suicide rate in states with CAP laws was entirely due
to a
> reduction in firearm deaths, the researchers said.

I'm a bit skeptical about this, because that would mean that there was NO
substitution
of methods.  That's a bit hard to believe.  I can believe that lack of
access to guns
might cause many or even most teenagers to not attempt suicide, but I would
find it
hard to believe that no teenagers, or almost no teenagers, would substitute
some other
method.  To claim that the decreased suicide rate "was entirely due to a
reduction in
firearm deaths" would mean that there was no change in suicide by other
methods, or that
the change in method was completely washed out by the lower lethality of
other available
suicide methods.   As I mention below, there are plenty of other methods of
comparable
lethality available to teenagers.

> That is because a gun "is about the most lethal form of suicide," and "a
large
> proportion of teen suicides are due to a kind of fleeting emotion," said
study
> co-author Daniel W. Webster, co-director of the Hopkins Center for Gun
Policy
> and Research.
>
> If a gun is not available, a teenager in agony because of a failed exam or
a
> breakup with a sweetheart might seek an alternative method of suicide, but
> "pills very rarely are successful," Webster said.

However, many of the other methods for committing suicide are close to
firearms in
lethality--and I'm not aware of any state that has made rope, automobile
exhaust, or
bodies of water hard to find.  These have fatality rates of 80.0%, 77.0%,
and 75.0%--
just a bit lower than shooting, which is 84.7% fatal.  (Gary Kleck, _Point
Blank_,
Table 6.2.)

Clayton E. Cramer
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