Is anyone surprised that the Brady representative argues against a
strawman, rather than against the actual law?

    "You don't just broadly paint a new statewide law saying, if 
    you're in doubt, go ahead and shoot and kill the other person,"
    says Peter Hamm, spokesman for the Brady Campaign to Prevent 
    Gun Violence in Washington.

None of these laws authorize people to shoot when they are in doubt.
What they do is remove the legal obligation to flee when you are not in
doubt.

Peter

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Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 7:55 PM
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This entire debate is misframed. It is not properly a question of "duty 
to retreat" or "stand your ground", or even "self-defense". The duty of 
all persons who are members of a society is to help enforce the laws of 
that society. We have become so indoctrinated in depending on officials 
to perform public duties that we have forgotten that it is the duty of 
everyone to perform public duties. The duty in a violent confrontation 
with a criminal is to make an arrest, and the answer to why you had to 
shoot him is not "self-defense" but "he was resisting arrest".
Let the word go forth. Never send to know where are the police. You are 
the police.

-- Jon

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