-----Original Message-----
>From: "Joseph E. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Jul 25, 2007 3:58 PM
>To: List Firearms Reg <[email protected]>
>Subject: RE: The REPUBLICAN ... from New York.
>
>I don't think it is clear.
> 
>It depends on your view of the correctness of a broad reading of Barron beyond 
>its facts.  Many (most?)  nineteenth century state Supreme Court justices 
>thought the Second Amendment, at least, did apply to the states.  I'm not 
>aware of any cases [prior to] Barron that say otherwise.  Perhaps on the basis 
>of a distinction between "shall not be infringed" vs. "Congress shall make no" 
>although the state cases don't, IIRC, articulate a rationale, they just say 
>it.  

It's explicable if you figure that they were "natural rights" thinkers rather 
than positivists. The recognition (not creation) of a right to arms in a 
federal constitution could be used at least as strong evidence that such a 
right existed as a nonenumerated right vis-a-vis state governments. Thus Rawle, 
as I recollect, said that if states attempted to disarm their people the second 
amendment could be appealed to.

As I recall, in his speech introducing the Bill of Rights, one of Madison's 
arguments was that State BoRs weren't sufficient -- presumably undertaking to 
rebut the converse argument, that you could use state guarantees as proof of 
federal rights.
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