In his comments on my 2000 Chicago-Kent Law Review article, Clayton Cramer is wrong in 
every instance.  See below.
Regards,
Bob Spitzer

Robert J. Spitzer, Ph.D.
Distinguished Service Professor
Political Science Department
SUNY Cortland
Box 2000
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-----Original Message-----
From: Clayton E. Cramer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 1:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Spitzer's article in the Chicago-Kent Law Review

I just ran across Professor Robert J. Spitzer's "Lost and Found: Researching The 
Second Amendment," which appeared in the issue of Chicago-Kent Law Review 76:349 
[2000] that the Joyce Foundation paid for. As I read through Professor Spitzer's 
article, I am amazed at how many gross errors of fact it contains. Here's one 
especially amazing example:

"Such interpretations are false, as the Verdugo-Urquidez case has nothing to do with 
interpreting the Second Amendment. In fact, the case deals with the Fourth Amendment 
issue of whether an illegal alien from Mexico was entitled to constitutional 
protection regarding searches."

What does the decision say?

"Respondent Rene Martin Verdugo-Urquidez is a citizen and resident of Mexico. He is 
believed by the United States Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) to be one of the leaders 
of a large and violent organization in Mexico that smuggles narcotics into the United 
States. Based on a complaint charging respondent with various narcotics-related 
offenses, the Government obtained a warrant for his arrest on August 3, 1985. In 
January 1986, Mexican police officers, after discussions with United States marshals, 
apprehended Verdugo-Urquidez in Mexico and transported him to the United States Border 
Patrol station in Calexico, California. There, United States marshals arrested 
respondent and eventually moved him to a correctional center in San Diego, California, 
where he remains incarcerated pending trial."

Illegal alien? No.

Spitzer:
In the syllabus to the Verdugo case, it says this:  "Held: The Fourth Amendment does 
not apply to the search and seizure by United States agents of property owned by a 
NONRESIDENT ALIEN [emphasis added] and located in a foreign country."

In his majority opinion, CJ Rehnquist writes this:
"Relying on our decision in INS v Lopez-Mendoza. . .where a majority of Justices 
assumed that ILLEGAL ALIENS [emphasis added] in the United States have Fourth 
Amendment rights. . . ."

Illegal alien?  Yes.

Spitzer goes on to write:

"In the majority decision, Chief Justice Rehnquist discussed the meaning of the phrase 
"the people"-given that the phrase appears not only in several parts of the Bill of 
Rights, but also in the Constitution's Preamble in order to determine its 
applicability to a noncitizen. Rehnquist speculated that the phrase "seems to have 
been a term of art," Verdugo-Urquidez, 494 U.S. at 265, that probably pertains to 
people who have developed a connection with the national community. Rehnquist's 
speculations about whether the meaning of "the people" could be extended to a 
noncitizen, and his two passing mentions of the Second Amendment in that discussion, 
shed no light, much less legal meaning, on this Amendment."

Is it a "speculation" when Rehnquist's opinion is joined by Justices White, O'Connor, 
Scalia, and Kennedy, and none of the other justices dispute that "the people" means 
the same thing everywhere it appears in the Constitution?

Justice Stevens concurred in the result, and gave no disagreement about what "the 
people" means. Justices Marshall and Brennan disagreed with the result, arguing that 
"the people" included aliens illegally brought into the U.S. by government agents--but 
even they didn't argue that "the people" meant something different in the Second 
Amendment from the rest of the Constitution.

Spitzer:
The fact that other justices concurred with Rehnquist does not contradict or refute my 
simple point that the Verdugo case is a Fourth Amendment case (see the previous 
quote), and the fact that, as a matter of law, Rehnquist's comment about the meaning 
of "the people" sheds no light on the meaning of the Second Amendment.  Since it was 
not a Second Amendment case (recall that it was a Fourth Amendment case), there was no 
reason for the dissenters to comment on that subject. And in his discussion of the 
meaning of the phrase "the people," Rehnquist makes clear why he examines this matter 
when he concludes by saying that the phrase ". . .refers to a class of persons who are 
part of a national community or who have otherwise developed sufficient connection 
with this country to be considered part of that community."

Spitzer also observes:

"In short, Levinson offers a bona fide constitutional argument proposing that 
vigilantism and citizen violence, including armed insurrection, against the government 
are legal, proper, and even beneficial activities within the Second Amendment 
umbrella. The idea that vigilantism and armed insurrection are as constitutionally 
sanctioned as voting is a proposition of such absurdity that one is struck more by its 
boldness than by its pretensions to seriousness. Yet it appears repeatedly in the 
individualist literature."

What a concept! Our government was born in revolution--not by voting. Is anyone 
surprised that they guaranteed a "right of the people" to be armed--but didn't even 
guarantee every free white man a right to vote? (Look carefully: the Constitution left 
qualifications for voting to the states.)

Spitzer:
America was indeed born in revolution; but the modern Constitution was not written 
until four years after the formal conclusion of the war, and the Bill of Rights not 
added until four years after that; the Constitution institutionalized the revolution 
by calling for political change through peaceful and democratic means -- elections, 
juries, (peaceful) petitioning the government for redress of grievances, etc.  As if 
this weren't obvious enough, Article I, sec. 8 of the Constitution notes that militias 
had/have three stated purposes:  "execute the Laws of the Union, SUPPRESS 
INSURRECTIONS [emphasis added] and repel Invasions." Any so-called "right of 
revolution" occurs outside of the Constitution, not within it.


Clayton E. Cramer           [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.claytoncramer.com
Being a citizen of the Republic is not a spectator sport.

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