First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List ......................................................................... Well, this wasn't as simple as I thought it would be. My original headliner is dry rotted where the bows go through. It's nearly impossible to see how far back the fabric was cut. I'll send you photos with a rule next to each spot. I measured the bows. In order (I think front to back) 1) 46-1/2" 2) 46-1/2" (identical to I have a book on automotive apholstery and it has a chapter on installing headliners. They give instructions to cut the listing back a little at a time until the wrinkles are out. It says the listing should be within an inch of the end of the bow. I see more distance than that on some of these. Most seem like they were cut back to where the sharp bend is. Here is a paraphrase of the directions: The first step was to locate the center line of the liner. They cut a short notch at the front and back ends of the liner to indicate center. Start at the front bow, with the front edge of the liner cliped to the windshield opening. Install all the bows, working front to back. Have the headliner bunched up along the bow and confirm the centerline is matched to the center of the bow. Once the headliner is fastened to all the bows, try to pull all the wrinkles out. carefully cut each listing just a little at a time while working the wrinkles out. Go side to side, cutting a little at a time while working on the wrinkles. If you cut to far, you'll lose the crown of the liner. Once the wrinkles are worked out, cement the edges of the liner to the window openings. Start with the door openings first, the quarter openings next and the front/back glass openings last. I'll send photos to your hotmail address. I'm not sure they will help much. It looks as though the original work was done as explained in this book, by snipping the listings to fit. With this rotted fabric, it's impossible to see where the original cut was and what is just perished. You'll see what I mean. Gosh this liner is nasty. It's been out of the car four years and it stinks as bad as the day I pulled it out! Larry
--- On Thu, 7/31/08, S Sterchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: S Sterchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [FGF] 68' Headliner Install To: "First Generation Firebird-L" <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 11:20 AM First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List ......................................................................... Thanks Larry. Since all the listings are a little different in length, if you could give the lengths of all of the sleeves, that would be helpful. I purchased my headliner from CI and yes you do have to cut the listings to fit. The sleeves are longer than the listings (bows) themselves. The other method would be to simply know how much bow needs to be exposed on each side in order to get the proper fit and line from front to back. Unless we have some upholstery guys out there or someone that has done it, measuring an original that is out of the car would be the next best thing. Thanks for the help! SHeen> .........................................................................> I didn't know the replacement headliner needed any modifications. I have the orignal here somewhere if you want some measurements taken. Let me know how you want it measured.> > You probably know this, but the little nylon clips that snap over the wire hoops are reproduced. They were brittle in my project, so I am replacing all of them.> > Larry _________________________________________________________________ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us&source=wlmailtagline ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Submissions to Firebird-L: <[email protected]> Unsubscribe from Firebird-L: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Help: <http://FirstGenFirebird.org/firebird/Firebird-L.html> Classifieds: <http://FirstGenFirebird.org/ubb/> Owner Pictures: <http://FirstGenFirebird.org/show/> Donations: <http://FirstGenFirebird.org/store/cart.mv?999999> FGF Merchandise: <http://FirstGenFirebird.org/store> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Submissions to Firebird-L: <[email protected]> Unsubscribe from Firebird-L: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Help: <http://FirstGenFirebird.org/firebird/Firebird-L.html> Classifieds: <http://FirstGenFirebird.org/ubb/> Owner Pictures: <http://FirstGenFirebird.org/show/> Donations: <http://FirstGenFirebird.org/store/cart.mv?999999> FGF Merchandise: <http://FirstGenFirebird.org/store>
