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Brett, 
I was converting my  4 wheel drum brakes to 4 wheel discs (another story 
entirely), so it seemed like  a good time to replace the coil springs which 
were 
obviously not doing the  job.  They had spacers installed and  the car would 
bottom out going over dips at speed. 
The engine in my 68  convertible is a 454 BB Chevy, which was in the car when 
I bought it.  I probably could have used Camaro  springs, but any springs 
that met the requirements of spring load, compression  rate, unloaded spring 
height, and the correct type of ends (tangential) would  have worked.  
I have no idea what  the comparative weight is between the Pontiac and Chevy 
engines, but I weighed my  car; 4020 pounds total and 2260 pounds of that is 
on the front axle (the all  cast iron 1977 BBC, air conditioning, etc.).  So 
the springs had to be able to handle  2260 pounds and the 67 GTO coils (part 
TRW 
5244 from OPGI) were manufactured for  a load of 2273 pounds (if I recall 
correctly) and they had tangential  ends. 
I did all the  research at the time but now I have forgotten all of the 
details, but it  basically came down to the math.  The GTO springs unloaded 
height 
was about 14 inches with a compression  rate of several hundred pounds for 1 
inch of spring compression.  So the front end weight of my car  compressed the 
springs from the unloaded 14 inch height to somewhere between 10  and 11 
inches, which is about the installed height of stock 68 Firebird coil  springs 
(for 
an all stock car).  I  wanted the stock height, and my car looks level even 
though the front wheel well  is about ¾ of an inch lower than the rear.   
However, if you want  to lower the ride height, you can simply cut off some 
of the coil to lower the  height.  You can only do this on  coil springs with 
tangential ends, but by cutting off ¾ of a coil, you will  lower the car height 
by 1 inch.  Just don’t use a blow torch and ruin the spring. 
Timothy 68  ‘vert 
Colorado Springs
 
 
In a message dated 12/3/2008 4:29:42 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
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Tim,  just curious as to your engine combo from your comments below? 
Is that a  Pontiac motor or a BB Chevy? All the Pontiacs should be close 
to the same  weight (326 - 455) which should only be aproximately a 50lbs 
-100lbs  difference than a BB Chevy if I remember correctly? So I was just  
wondering... If it is a BB Chevy, I would have thought BB Camaro springs  
would have been the chioce? I've just never heard of anyone using the  GTO
springs and found it interesting... Thanks

Brett - 67 Drop Top  455! (with an electric Fuel pump helper & a stock  pump)






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