<<< 23.01.2014 9:11 - Thomas Steinmaurer "t...@iblogmanager.com" >>>
TS> Hello,

Hello Thomas,

 >> AFAIK, the parameter DefaultDbCachePages is intended for newly created
 >> databases as default size of cache pages. It doesn't have effect on existing
 >> databases where its own setting is used. Every database can have own setting
 >> about count of cache pages.
TS>  
TS>  The DefaultDbCachePages parameter in firebird.conf applies when page 
TS>  buffers of the database is set to 0.

Thanks  for  this  info.  This  is  not  described  as  you  write  in
firebird.conf.

 >> It seems to be still not solving this problem using by FileSystemCacheSize.
 >>
 >> What else can I test?
TS>  
TS>  I haven't followed the entire thread, but first I would rule out I/O 
TS>  problems like faulty RAID controllers etc. In a particular case I was
TS>  called, although a high-end server in that case, performance was worse
TS>  than on an oldish laptop.
TS>  
TS>  Then there are various tuning/optimizations techniques and settings, 
TS>  which I usually discuss and go through at customer sites. Page size, 
TS>  page buffers, hash slots, increasing RAM usage for the sorting module
TS>  etc. Once the tuning/configuration side is exhausted, SQL tuning is 
TS>  probably the most important thing. At least from my experience.

I  have generated a big database about 50GB in my development computer
having  16GB RAM Win7 64bit and usual SATA drive. I use Firebird 2.5.2
Classic  64bit  and  I  have  the  same  behavior  as on that server I
mentioned initially.
It  seems  to  be  still  problem  even I use 2.5.2 where CORE-3791 is
implemented.

TS>  For sure, I would move away from SuperServer to Classic or SuperClassic
TS>  to get an overall increase in CPU utilization in a multi-user 
TS>  environment.

Yes,  I  know  this.  Usually  I  use  single  database deployment and
therefore is Classic better for me.

TS>  Although e.g. gbak is still bound to a single core.

Of course.

TS>  --
TS>  With regards,
TS>  Thomas Steinmaurer
TS>  http://www.upscene.com/
TS>  
TS>  Professional Tools and Services for Firebird
TS>  FB TraceManager, IB LogManager, Database Health Check, Tuning etc.
TS>  
 >>
 >> <<< 22.01.2014 15:05 - Hugo Eyng "hugoe...@msn.com" >>>
 >>
 >>      
 >> Try changing values for DefaultDbCachePages
 >>
 >> Em 21/01/2014 18:40, Roland Turcan escreveu:
 >>
 >> I have tried to change this parameter (actually =20), but I don't see
 >> any change.
 >>
 >> My server box is:
 >>
 >> Hewlett Packard server
 >> Intel Xeon CPU E31220 @ 3.10GHx
 >> 10GB RAM (8 GB RAM is usable)
 >>
 >> Firebird 2.5.2 64bit SuperServer
 >> single database is being used
 >> where its size is about 80GB
 >>
 >> When I copy any big file to test the performance of disk field then I
 >> can see
 >> that it can force disk performance, but Firebird is still relaxing.
 >>
 >> When I try to backup database using "gbak" no change. CPU core is on
 >> 3-6% and disk
 >> load is about 1MB/s
 >>
 >> What can I check else?
 >>
 >> Thanks in advance.
 >>
 >> TRoland;
 >>
 >>
 >> <<< 21.01.2014 15:17 - Hugo Eyng "hugoe...@msn.com"
 >> <mailto:hugoe...@msn.com>>>>
 >>
 >>      
 >> I changed the paramter FileSystemCacheSize = 0 to FileSystemCacheSize =
 >> 20 in the firebird.conf
 >> as suggested in:
 >>
 >> http://dyemanov.blogspot.com.br/2012/03/firebird-vs-windows-file-system-caching.html
 >>
 >> Hugo
 >>
 >> Em 21/01/2014 12:06, Roland Turcan escreveu:
 >>
 >> Yes, I am interested too.
 >>
 >> What was the key to get rid of this problem?
 >>
 >> Thanks in advance.
 >>
 >> <<< 21.01.2014 15:29 - Fabiano - Desenvolvimento SCI
 >> "fabi...@sci10.com.br" <mailto:fabi...@sci10.com.br>>>>
 >>
 >>      
 >>
 >> How you solved your problem?
 >>
 >> *De: *firebird-support@yahoogroups.com
 >> <mailto:firebird-support@yahoogroups.com>[mailto:firebird-support@yahoogroups.com]
 >> *Em nome de *Hugo Eyng
 >> *Enviada em:* terça-feira, 21 de janeiro de 2014 10:24
 >> *Para: *firebird-support@yahoogroups.com
 >> <mailto:firebird-support@yahoogroups.com>
 >> *Assunto:* Re: [firebird-support] Very very very slow FB 2.5.2 64bit
 >> performance on Windows 2008 R2
 >>
 >>
 >> Hi Helen.
 >>
 >> Thanks for your answer.
 >>
 >> You are right.
 >>
 >> But the "Windows 64 file cache performance"  was a problem, as said Sean.
 >>
 >> Só 'reserving' 10GB as a RAM DRIVE grant that I would have always
 >> available RAM.
 >>
 >> But now I solved the 'cache performance' and I will not need RAM DRIVE
 >> anymore.
 >>
 >> Even so, the FB performance is not compatible to the hardware used to
 >> run it.
 >> Em 20/01/2014 23:12, Helen Borrie escreveu:
 >>
 >> At 02:01 p.m. 21/01/2014, Hugo Eyng wrote:
 >>
 >>>As Firebird do not use available RAM I created a RAM DRIVE with 10GB and 
 >>>pointed parameter 'TempDirectories' (firebird.conf) to this RAM DRIVE, but 
 >>>FB just uses it rarely in very big 'SELECT'. OK, when FB uses the RAM DRIVE 
 >>>it increases a SELECT speed in more than 80%. I expected FB could use this 
 >>>for every SELECTS and so improve the application.
 >>
 >> Fb uses RAM directly for sorts, if enough is available. It only takes
 >> the sort sets to disk if available RAM is insufficient.
 >>
 >> Helen Borrie, Support Consultant, IBPhoenix (Pacific)
 >> Author of "The Firebird Book" and "The Firebird Book Second Edition"
 >> http://www.firebird-books.net
 >> __________________________________________________________
 >>
 >>
 >> --
 >>
 >>
 >> Atenciosamente,
 >>
 >> Hugo Eyng
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> How you solved your problem?
 >>
 >> *De: *firebird-support@yahoogroups.com
 >> <mailto:firebird-support@yahoogroups.com>[mailto:firebird-support@yahoogroups.com]
 >> *Em nome de *Hugo Eyng
 >> *Enviada em:* terça-feira, 21 de janeiro de 2014 10:24
 >> *Para: *firebird-support@yahoogroups.com
 >> <mailto:firebird-support@yahoogroups.com>
 >> *Assunto:* Re: [firebird-support] Very very very slow FB 2.5.2 64bit
 >> performance on Windows 2008 R2
 >>
 >>
 >> Hi Helen.
 >>
 >> Thanks for your answer.
 >>
 >> You are right.
 >>
 >> But the "Windows 64 file cache performance"  was a problem, as said Sean.
 >>
 >> Só 'reserving' 10GB as a RAM DRIVE grant that I would have always
 >> available RAM.
 >>
 >> But now I solved the 'cache performance' and I will not need RAM DRIVE
 >> anymore.
 >>
 >> Even so, the FB performance is not compatible to the hardware used to
 >> run it.
 >> Em 20/01/2014 23:12, Helen Borrie escreveu:
 >>
 >> At 02:01 p.m. 21/01/2014, Hugo Eyng wrote:
 >>
 >>>As Firebird do not use available RAM I created a RAM DRIVE with 10GB and 
 >>>pointed parameter 'TempDirectories' (firebird.conf) to this RAM DRIVE, but 
 >>>FB just uses it rarely in very big 'SELECT'. OK, when FB uses the RAM DRIVE 
 >>>it increases a SELECT speed in more than 80%. I expected FB could use this 
 >>>for every SELECTS and so improve the application.
 >>
 >> Fb uses RAM directly for sorts, if enough is available. It only takes
 >> the sort sets to disk if available RAM is insufficient.
 >>
 >> Helen Borrie, Support Consultant, IBPhoenix (Pacific)
 >> Author of "The Firebird Book" and "The Firebird Book Second Edition"
 >> http://www.firebird-books.net
 >> __________________________________________________________
 >>
 >>
 >> --
 >>
 >>
 >> Atenciosamente,
 >>
 >> Hugo Eyng
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> /--
 >> Best regards, TRoland
 >> /http://www.rotursoft.sk
 >> http://exekutor.rotursoft.sk
 >>
 >> --
 >>
 >>
 >> Atenciosamente,
 >>
 >> Hugo Eyng
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> /--
 >> Best regards, TRoland
 >> /http://www.rotursoft.sk
 >> http://exekutor.rotursoft.sk
 >>
 >> --
 >>
 >>
 >> Atenciosamente,
 >>
 >> Hugo Eyng
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> /--
 >> Best regards, TRoland
 >> /http://www.rotursoft.sk
 >> http://exekutor.rotursoft.sk
 >>
 >> 
TS>  
TS>  
TS>               
TS>           




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