On Jul 1, 2:41 pm, sir_brizz <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sorry, but what does 8,000 beta users have to do with anything (and
> how is such a number tracked, anyway? I've downloaded Firebug alphas/
> betas from at least 5 unique locations and I'm sure many others have
> done the same)? The people posting here are the people that care about
> Firebug development, and the ratio represented should, roughly,
> correlate back to that entire 8,000. If not, then what use is any
> statistical analysis in the world today? They wouldn't do it if the
> methods weren't mostly proven. Frankly, if satisfaction rate is
> anywhere near 50%, I would see changing the activation model as an
> utter failure and complete waste of time (I'm sorry to say).

The only people I listen to are people to speak up. So the numbers
just do not matter, for or against any feature. The only part I am
interested in how can we make Firebug better.  I'm not going to
develop or design by any voting scheme.

>
> The current functionality is overcomplicated and inconvenient. Here's
> how I explained it to a friend (and this is all true based on my
> testing of 1.4b3):
>
> you click the bug, it turns on for the current tab
> you refresh, and all the panels work for the current page
> oh, but first you have to right click the bug and say "enable all
> panels"

Once only.

> if you click the bug then firebug will stay open on that tab
> if you want to hide the panel, you have to click minimize not the x
> [confusing]

I'm confident you will learn this small difference quickly.

> if you mistakenly click the x, you have to then click the bug, refresh
> the page, then minimize
> if it's minimized and you go to another page, it disables

The activate/deactivate is not related to minimize.

> if you go back to a page it was enabled on, it re-enables

We would say: if you go back to a page that was active, FIrebug will
open.

> but of course if you hit the x on accident, it forgets that setting

But I am sure you will get this after a few trials.

>
> Okay, now let's compare that to 1.3:
>
> Click bug
> check three boxes
> click a button

But once you get the hang of 1.4, you have:
Click the bug
that is it.

>
> So, how can we continue to claim this is not more complex? It
> absolutely is!

Because 1 < 5.   Give it a chance.

jjb
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