"There's that percentage thing again. It's not helpful since we have no way to measure it. "
Well, judging by the backlash (and it's just going to get worse as Firefox 3.5 users are forced to 1.4), the % would certainly be higher, right? :-) i really wish something would be done, but ah well, i've typed enough about this On Jul 1, 8:38 pm, johnjbarton <[email protected]> wrote: > On Jul 1, 5:22 am, MorningZ <[email protected]> wrote: > > > "Ok right away I see your problem. Does Visual Studio generates as a > > new file name every time? And it's not a web site so you don't even > > have a domain correct?" > > > I have a local DNS entry so i am hitting a consistant domain > > name,www.oursite.com.local, which just points to 127.0.0.1 And studio > > opens up a new browser window, not a new file name > > If the URL is the same, the page should be active. If not something is > broken. > > > > > "Just to help the communications, we would not call that "up > > disabled". > > Rather we would say "closed" (because you have no UI) and "suspended" > > because the icon is gray. " > > > You can call it what you want, i call it "not running right away and > > watching net traffic and logging to the console"... > > If it is not active, you will get no logging or net traffic. > > > > > "If you had ever done this in the past for that URL, Firebug would > > already be active. " > > > No, no it wouldn't if it was a new browser window > > The new browser window has nothing to do with activation. The active > URL are stored as page annotations in Firefox database. > > > > > "I like "undock" but we call it "detach". If you had been detached > > before, you would stay detached" > > > OK, "detached", my bad.... again, this doesn't happen for new browser > > windows > > That part I would consider to be a design bug and could be fixed. > > > > > "From what I can see in your information so far, the issue here is > > that > > Visual Studio is generating file name" > > > As mentioned above, you do not have this correctly... Studio opens up > > a new browser window..... and look, you're not understanding what > > the core of the issue: > > - When a new browser window opens up on my local site here (or any > > site i "white list" like 1.3 allowed), i would like Firebug to be > > running/watching/enabled/activated/whatever-other-term-goes-here, and > > not have to go through clicking, detaching, and dragging stuff out of > > my way on a constant basis > > I just did the following test: > 1) Open Firefox onhttp://getfirebug.com > 2) Open Firebug > 3) Exit Firefox > 4) Open Firefox onhttp://getfirebug.com > Firebug is now open. I did not click additional buttons. > > > > > "So it's not possible to anticipate all the cases" > > > But you guys already have! It's called "the way 1.3 worked".. if you > > Ok, but now we have 1.4. So let's concentrate on what we can do. > > > just combined the two, you'd probably cover 98% of the use cases > > There's that percentage thing again. It's not helpful since we have no > way to measure it. > > > > > "As a practical matter, I am personally not going to re-work the > > activation mode" > > > I haven't seen one person say scrap it and start over, we're looking > > for a layer on top that when the decision is made by Firebug: "Am I > > activated?", that it checks a user-defined list of domain names to be > > part of the decision... if it's starting up for the first time, check > > the list to start activated > > We are ready to help anyone who wants to write and maintain such code. > > > > > sir_brizz's post above this one makes the point just like I am trying > > to make: > > > "This way I never had to wonder if, for example, Firebug was running > > on ANY of my development sites (all on the same domain). With only > > slight modifications, this activation model could have easily been > > made to work like 1.2 for users who were interested. After one moment > > of annoyance, I could have all of my sites functioning with Firebug > > with NO ACTION from me" > > The Activate Same Domain solution in Firebug 1.5a7 may address this > point. > > jjb --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Firebug" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/firebug?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
