I welcome your specific suggestions on how the user interface can be clearer and more consistent. The [X] is not a metaphor, it is a button. We need a user interaction to deactivate Firebug for a web page. In my opinion, clicking [X] is an adequate solution. If you do not like that solution, propose an alternative.
jjb On Jul 4, 12:42 pm, jjj <jason31...@gmail.com> wrote: > Wrong. A well-designed UI should never disable the [x] metaphor > because of a poor design that has thrown the baby out with the > bathwater. > > jjj > > On Jul 3, 11:05 pm, johnjbarton <johnjbar...@johnjbarton.com> wrote: > > > On Jul 3, 10:22 pm, sir_brizz <bj.car...@gmail.com> wrote: > > ...> > > > > You're missing my point completely here. > > > And I'll keep missing the point until you break it down in ways I can > > understand. Oh wait you did: > > > > Right click Firebug > > > Check "On for all pages" > > > Go tohttp://www.yahoo.com[Firebugpanelopens] > > > Minimize Firebug > > > Go tohttp://www.google.com[Firebugremainsminimized correctly] > > > > At this point, what I WANT to do is keep Firebug "minimized" but > > > disable it forhttp://www.google.com, so I: > > > > Click the bug > > > This is the UI operation for un-minimizing Firebug. > > > > Click the [x] > > > This is a bug: the [X] should be disabled. > > > > Go tohttp://www.yahoo.com[Firebugpanelopens incorrectly, in my > > > opinion] > > > But since you said "on for all pages", and "un-minimize" this is > > working as designed. > > > > Currently there is no way to change this behavior, and that is a > > > problem. In my opinion, if "On for all pages" is checked and the > > > Firebug panel is not displaying at all (whether it is minimized or > > > closed), it should not be showing on any subsequent page loads until > > > the bug is clicked again. > > > In my opinion, "On for all pages" should be "on for all pages". You > > should not be able to deactivate a page and close Firebug when the > > option is set. The fact that you can mislead you about the character > > of the option. > > > > I think that just highlights one of the problems with this model, but > > > I'll leave that whining now. :p > > > And I think it just highlights a bug. It communicates one problem you > > have in a way I can understand. Not one person in the time since I > > have been working on 1.4 has ever reported this problem. You just did > > and now I can fix it. > > > But once I fix it you will *not* be getting what you want. That is, I > > am going prevent you from using "On for all pages" in a way you hoped > > would be good for you. So I hope you will try 1.4b5 or 1.5a8 without > > "On for all pages" and communicate -- in the same step-wise approach > > -- what problems you have that make you want to use "on for all pages" > > in funky ways. > > > jjb --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Firebug" group. To post to this group, send email to firebug@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to firebug+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/firebug?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---