Hi John, I think you're grossly misinterpreting my comments. They were not intended as criticism of you or of Firebug at all. As I've already said, I consider Firebug an invaluable tool and I love it. I also appreciate you helping me with this issue. I'm merely making a suggestion that I think will make Firebug even better.
On Jul 17, 12:58 am, John J Barton <[email protected]> wrote: > You understood our UI but you chose to ignore the close button when > you wanted to close Firebug on GMail. Perhaps you can see that this > makes it difficult for us to help you. You HAVE helped me and I thank you for that, but until you helped me I did NOT understand the UI - that's the point. Nobody "chooses" to ignore the very button they're looking for. It's "selective attention". Jakob Nielsen explains it better than I can: http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9605.html (section 7). As he says, "After all, when you IGNORE something, you don't study it in detail to find out what it is." My point is not about whether I was "right" to ignore it or Firebug is "right" to show it the way it does - that's irrelevant. My point is simply that if I couldn't see it and two other experienced developers I've spoken to couldn't see it then it's not entirely unlikely that there are other users out there who make the same mistake. Of course, you could say "if they're that stupid - to hell with them" and that's your right. Or you could make the product more usable for more people. > The GMail information is two years old. I don't understand why you > blame Firebug if Google does not update their page. Notice how you > got here: you saw the message on Google's page, read their > information, and then you were confused and posted here. If Google's > page had said "Push the 'disable Firebug for this site' button in the > upper right corner of Firebug", then you would know exactly what to > do. > > I wish GMail would fix their page and I've sent requests to that effect > without success. I wish GMail would fix it as well, and I've also submitted feedback to them and posted a comment. I certainly do not blame Firebug for the GMail page being wrong, but I've also tried and failed to discover a way to turn it off before I saw that page. I only referred to it as another example of someone failing to discover this functionality, like my two colleagues. Perhaps another reason I failed to discover the button is that most programs with menus have ALL functions available via the menus and only SOME of them via toolbar buttons (as a shortcut), so I expected that if there was a way to do something it would be in the menu. Right or wrong, that's what I was conditioned to expect by the software I've used - Windows, Office, Firefox, Visual Studio, etc. It's worth noting that Firebug actually does have menu items for the other two red buttons. Wouldn't it make sense to be consistent and add a menu item for this one, too, like old versions used to have? Evgeny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Firebug" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/firebug?hl=en.
