thank you for the complete explanations, it was not easy to find : a bug in
firebug... difficult to imagine ;-)
well done to both of you !

Benjamin ANDRE - +33 (0)6 86 25 36 66 - CozyCloud.cc<https://www.CozyCloud.cc>


2013/9/9 Simon Lindholm <[email protected]>

> Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's a bug (related to that issue I linked).
>
> Wrapped objects are a technical term, related to privileged JavaScript in
> Firefox. I suppose you could google "spidermonkey wrappers" to get further
> information, but to simplify it a wrapper (at least, of this kind) is like
> a shadow version of a DOM object, that behaves subtly differently, and
> attempts to make it "nicer" to work with. (It is implicitly converted to a
> non-wrapper when passed back to non-privileged JavaScript.)
>
> Den måndagen den 9:e september 2013 kl. 12:11:09 UTC+2 skrev Sebastian
> Zartner:
>
>> Simon seems to be right with his assumption that the pale color indicates
>> properties that are read-only. Here are the related code lines:
>>
>> https://github.com/firebug/**firebug/blob/master/extension/**
>> content/firebug/dom/**domMemberProvider.js#L344<https://github.com/firebug/firebug/blob/master/extension/content/firebug/dom/domMemberProvider.js#L344>
>> https://github.com/firebug/**firebug/blob/master/extension/**
>> skin/classic/dom.css#L18<https://github.com/firebug/firebug/blob/master/extension/skin/classic/dom.css#L18>
>>
>> I added a sentence to the DOM 
>> panel<https://getfirebug.com/wiki/index.php/DOM_Panel#Color_Codes>reflecting 
>> that.
>>
>> Though I wonder why they are not displayed in pale color for me within
>> the *DOM* side panel:
>>
>>
>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-q1tL1YglwAM/Ui2c3Id5e7I/AAAAAAAAAJ8/ZSoprJzW8A4/s1600/readOnlyDOMPropertyValuesDisplay.jpg>
>> That may be the bug here, because inside the main DOM panel the
>> properties *are* displayed in light color. Simon, what do you think?
>>
>> Sebastian
>>
>> On Sunday, September 8, 2013 10:19:40 PM UTC+2, Benjamin Andre wrote:
>>>
>>> hum, I like the read only theory, but why when not in debugging does the
>>> color become strong again ?
>>> Maybe your second point explain this, but I don't understand what a
>>> "wrapped object" is in this context...
>>>
>>> Benjamin ANDRE - +33 (0)6 86 25 36 66 - 
>>> CozyCloud.cc<https://www.CozyCloud.cc>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/9/8 Simon Lindholm <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>> I *think* they might indicate that the property is readonly (has getter
>>>> but no setter), and that the difference between debugging and not is
>>>> whether the objects we deal with are wrapped or not (see
>>>> http://code.google.com/p/fbug/**issues/detail?id=5377<http://code.google.com/p/fbug/issues/detail?id=5377>).
>>>>
>>>> Den söndagen den 8:e september 2013 kl. 09:01:30 UTC+2 skrev Benjamin
>>>> Andre:
>>>>>
>>>>> I made different tries and I realized that "light colors" appears only
>>>>> if you look at the dom while debugging.
>>>>> It is then quite difficult to export and html file with the pb :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> No, realy, I don't understand the meaning of these colors... If all
>>>>> properties were light it might indicates that ... the node is "fresh" ??
>>>>> (joke)
>>>>>
>>>>> Le dimanche 8 septembre 2013 01:21:47 UTC+2, Sebastian Zartner a
>>>>> écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmm, spontaneously I'd say that's a bug. Do you have a URL and steps,
>>>>>> so this can be reproduced?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sebastian
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, September 7, 2013 8:13:09 PM UTC+2, Benjamin Andre wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I found the meaning of the 
>>>>>>> colors<https://getfirebug.com/wiki/index.php/DOM_Panel#Color_Codes>,
>>>>>>> but no explanation on why the colors of dom property value is sometimes
>>>>>>> "light".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For exemple, you can see here that the property "clientWidth" is
>>>>>>> light blue, whereas "hidden" is normal blue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-e06k1MLjPeg/Uitr9L4kTLI/AAAAAAAAAEw/qFsee2Oqm7k/s1600/firebug.png>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any idea ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (this is important, this difference is the only one I found between
>>>>>>> a case that works and another cas that doesn't work... :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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