This is interesting. Why didn't you mention it, Mark?

SECURITY ALTERNATIVE TO CARNIVORE
NetICE, a software security company, has developed a free and open software 
product called "Altivore" as "alternative to Carnivore," the e-mail 
surveillance system favored by the FBI but criticized by privacy advocates. 
The company's chief technology officer said: "We wrote Altivore to 
correspond exactly to what the FBI says what Carnivore does... We founded 
this company in order to protect peoples' privacy. By showing the source 
code for Altivore, we're narrowing the debate to the true issues.'' 
Altivore can be downloaded free from the company's Web site. (AP/San Jose 
Mercury News 19 Sep 2000)
http://www.sjmercury.com/svtech/news/breaking/merc/docs/054462.htm

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Yes,

but the issue is what is the Government doing with them and do they really 
know how to use the tools properly..
/m

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