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Yes they do have talented people technically - but they have some
dumb-ass administrators...

Did I really write this or is it part of a plot?


- -----Original Message-----
From: Robinson, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, 22 September 2000 9:24 a.m.
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; Alan Clegg
Cc: Payton, John; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Carnivore .....


Don't kid yourself. The goverment makes a lot of mistakes, but they
do have
some talented people and they spend god-awful amounts of money,
especially
when their pride is on the line.

- --Eric

- -----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 1:25 PM
To: Alan Clegg
Cc: Payton, John; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Carnivore .....


Yes,

but the issue is what is the Government doing with them and do they
really 
know how to use the tools properly..
/m

At 04:08 PM 9/21/00 -0400, Alan Clegg wrote:
>Unless the network is lying to me again, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>said: 
> > http://www.robertgraham.com/pubs/carnivore-faq.html
>
>It is quite amazing that people fear this, but see no problem with
>tools like tcpdump and ethereal.
>
>AlanC {we have nothing to fear but the Government wielding the same
>tools 
>        that we "security experts" already have}

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