<smile> if possible...


Thanks,


Ron DuFresne

On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, David Lang wrote:

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>  and what do you then do to someone who actually penetrates your system?
> execute them?
> 
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> David Lang
> 
> On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Ron DuFresne wrote:
> 
> > 
> > But, then you have taken an addict and set them loose without the fix they
> > need, and so the urge overwhelms the senses and the fear of retribution
> > losses it;s impact and influence.  This is very similiar to what was done
> > with Mitnick and others playing the same game over time.  And few of them
> > could resist the need for the fix and soon found a means to soothes their
> > needs and wants.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Ron DuFresne
> > 
> > On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Mark Hayes wrote:
> > 
> > > How about making it illegal for the culprit to go anywhere near a computer
> > > for two years (punishable by prison). Put them on probation. This would have
> > > a knockon affect of (in some cases) making certain people unemployable for a
> > > while (if their job involves computers). Confiscate all hardware for the
> > > duration and delete all know internet accounts etc. You could even
> > > distribute lists to all known (local) service providers making it an offence
> > > to provide a connection to anyone on that list.
> > > 
> > > Mark
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Matthew G . Harrigan
> > > Sent: 27 July 1999 02:23
> > > To: Derek Martin; Paul D. Robertson
> > > Cc: P L STEINBRUCH; Paul L. Lussier; William Joynt; Bill Joynt; Dave
> > > Gillett; Firewall list; Paul L. Lussier
> > > Subject: kill -9 the portscan thing.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Let me ask you this: what do you think should be the punishment for a port
> > > > scan?
> > > 
> > > Hm. How about having to listen to lots of people on a mailing list
> > > dredge on about a topic which can only end up in the eventual consultation
> > > of someone who knows the law pertaining to a given geographical area? :-)
> > > Just think of how many portscans you folks are missing while typing!
> > > 
> > > Matt
> > > 
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> > "Cutting the space budget really restores my faith in humanity.  It
> > eliminates dreams, goals, and ideals and lets us get straight to the
> > business of hate, debauchery, and self-annihilation." -- Johnny Hart
> >     ***testing, only testing, and damn good at it too!***
> > 
> > OK, so you're a Ph.D.  Just don't touch anything.
> > 
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> "If users are made to understand that the system administrator's job is to
> make computers run, and not to make them happy, they can, in fact, be made
> happy most of the time. If users are allowed to believe that the system
> administrator's job is to make them happy, they can, in fact, never be made
> happy." 
> - -Paul Evans (as quoted by Barb Dijker in "Managing Support Staff", LISA '97)
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"Cutting the space budget really restores my faith in humanity.  It
eliminates dreams, goals, and ideals and lets us get straight to the
business of hate, debauchery, and self-annihilation." -- Johnny Hart
        ***testing, only testing, and damn good at it too!***

OK, so you're a Ph.D.  Just don't touch anything.

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