On Thu, 14 Oct 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I've never been to it, but I've been told that it's about 10% hackers and 90%
> government officials. So there should be some good info there.
It's really more of a circus these days, dudez. More accurately about 5%
hackers, 50% warez kiddiez and their girlfriends, and 5% government agents
from FBI / Secret Service / CSAG / RCMP etc. It's a lot of fun but it's
doubtful you'll learn much about firewalls there except what trendy new
attacks are developing. Can't beat the cost though and you will not see
much microsoft! Our group always sends representatives but not always
speaks openly there!
Also most of the government agents who lurk around DEFCON are know-nothing
types, who wouldn't know what port SMTP lives on, they are mostly there
for speakers such as DarkTangent or perhaps B-String or Se7en, or
investigating various non-firewall issues such as telephony fraud, credit
cards, cel fone cloning and other fun stuff. Like mabye .5% of the
attendees will have firewall knowledge... Sometimes the guest speakers are
good though... people you ordinarily would never have a chance to see...
...all in all it's pretty much the only such event I care about in the
US... but it's more of a fun excursion than serious sercurity development
I would say!
You corporate suit windows-NT using guys should go there and try to hire
some of those kiddiez, they will set you up sweet.
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