Dean while the posters may have been rather impolite - you assume that they are *native* English speakers you not have noticed - but the Internet is getting less & less US-centric which as a corrolary means that a large percentage of user/admins/whatever are NOT english speakers I suggest you read <http://www.first.org/docs/international_comms.html> then read your flame below & apply it to yourself before you start a flame-war about English grammar -- Rafi Sadowsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Operations Center |VoiceMail: +972-3-646-0592 FAX: +972-3-646-5410 ILAN - IUCC -I2(Israel) | member ILAN-CERT([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (Israeli Academic Network) | (PGP key -> ) http://telem.openu.ac.il/~rafi On Mon, 8 Nov 1999, Grimes, Dean wrote: > To Hill and Pajak: > > Have either one of you ever passed a basic English grammar and spelling > test? Neither one of you have ever made mistakes ... ever? Reading through > your posts revealed to me that neither one of you have yet mastered even the > most basic concepts of sentence structure and use of the English language. > Since this forum is communicated in written form, it makes sense that one > develop a command of the written word. > > Hill, if you are at least a little bit intelligent, why don't you learn how > to spell intelligent before using it in a sentence. While you're at it, > learn to spell loser, because as a participant in the human race you will > need to refer to this word frequently. > > Pajak, what is "you see, some of us are just not politically correct and we > don't really > care to be ones."? I guess you are correct, there just isn't a nice way to > tell someone that they are a stupid idiot! > > Now didn't that diatribe help to encourage you to become more educated in > the use of the English language? Or does it just piss you off? I hope > neither one of have any children. You see, both of you missed an opportunity > to help and encourage someone. Instead you allowed pride and selfishness to > prevail in your lives. Maybe you do work well with machines, but there is no > substitute for friends, family and respect. Try next time to be real leaders > and help those in need. Just maybe, someday, you too will require a helping > hand or even just a kind word of encouragement. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Hill, Alan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 5:45 PM > To: 'Susan Kerschbaumer'; peter pajak > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: *This is a rant* RE: unsubscribing ? hate this industry. > special ly to Susan > > > You said... > It's people like you that make me hate this industry. We are not machines. > We are not computers. We are human beings. We make mistakes. We are > imperfect. > Be nice. There is a nice way to say what you want to say. > I wouldn't have said anything, but I thought I should make you aware of > how you come off to those of us who are on this list who are not arrogant > and inconsiderate. Maybe you can learn something. > > I reply.. > 1) The information is at the tail of every message he got. > 2) he chose to subscribe > 3) when he chose, the info was there > 4) this sort of responce in normal in a very highly technical group > 5) the person this was aimed at used a professional title, (and is expected > to be able to read) > 6) this sort of 'unfriendlyness' is normal to ANY outsider in ANY industry. > (try asking questions to a med) > 7) If you don't love the tech., live breath and eat the tech., you are in > the wrong business, go into sales. > 8) DON'T SPAM THE CHANNEL WITH NON-Firewall CHATTER!! > 9) If you are in FIREWALL, you are not a human being, you are on call 7x24, > you eat SPAM and PING storms, you live to kill the damn packet storms, and > you know that everyone in your office just wants to download .megs > > I went to school to study 'this industry', so I would know what I was doing. > I've been working in 'this industry' since 1980, and I still love every > minute that I am away from the lusers, and inside of the machine. To keep > up to date, I have to keep up my studies. This is one place that I can know > what is the lastest features/bugs. I don't feel like wading through FLUFF. > (I did that in my BBS days, and when I tried m$ manuals) > > Again, if you are at least a little intellegent, most of the best in 'this > industry' will give you the code off their PALMS, just don't ask them to > comment it for you. That is an exercise for the pupil. But don't ask them > to be friendly, they are giving you what they can afford, knowledge. Go ask > a salesman for a pretty pile of words. > > > of course, Richard Drennan should have sent his message in private, but it > was rather amusing. > - > [To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > "unsubscribe firewalls" in the body of the message.] > - [To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe firewalls" in the body of the message.]
