While you are up on that soap box, I'd like to join you for a second Mark...
This is for all you product vendors out there... Let's talk about pricing of
products.... Now nobody is saying that they want to take $ out of your
pockets, or food off your tables, but some of you guys out there are really
shooting yourselves in the foot with your pricing schemes. At some point,
when talking about large organizations, and the desire to employ your
product.... you have to draw a line and say this is where a "SITE LICENSE"
makes the most sense.
Have you ever tried to sell management on a product and tell them that it is
going to cost XXX per seat? If you have 40,000 users to support, it gets
real testy in the boardrooms. Especially when they are trying to decide on
what color the tile floor should be in the executive bathrooms... you
haven't got a chance....
Ever wonder how much more market share you could claim in your
advertisements if you were to make the switch? Some of you have seen the
light... and I salute you... the rest of you need to get on the ball and
become team players....
Stepping off the box now...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 8:36 PM
> To: mouss
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Speaking of blocking porn...-reply
>
> Again,
>
> I will get on my soapbox and state that any producer of Site Blocking
> software should account for all types of URL literals etc, that WWW
> producers of bad sites may possibly use to get around the currently
> available software.
>
> What does this mean??
>
> It means that software developers like Elron better get a move on, and
> start producing real strong software that has a good licensing/IP address
> program for large sites who have lots of Class 'A's, Class 'B's, and Class
>
> 'C's.. takes into account different organizations etc, etc. Instead of
> making press releases, start producing quality software that does not look
>
> like goofy Traffic lights. and has rudimentary reporting HTML reports.
> Invest some money in InstallShield 6.1 Professional for NT, InstallShield
> for Java for Solaris, Veritas Crystal Reports, a decent database backend
> with hooks that allow updates to be passed over TCP through security
> devices.
>
> The Internet has given a new name to development. Internet Development,
> where hardware is designed 3 months ahead of market with lots of research
> and development on the backend. Software companies have half that time,
> even a smaller time frame for companies producing URL Blocking software,
> the Internet changes in the blink of an eye and so does user preferences..
>
> /mark
>
>
>
>
> "mouss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 03/15/00 05:14 PM
>
>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "mouss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> cc:
> Subject: RE: Speaking of blocking porn...
>
>
> URLs and other web stuff may be encoded using '%' signs. so "%2e" is '.',
> "%77" is 'w', thus "%77%77%77" is "www". you can even mix things, so
> "%77w%77" is also "www".
> to decode the stuff, you can use perl functions generally found in
> CGI-scripting module/libs.
> search for URLdecode or something like that, then to decode a "cryptic"
> url,
> replace '@' by '\@'
> (cos' perl no more accepts unescaped '@' in strings) and print the result
> of
> URLdecode($string).
>
> you can certainly do that in other languages, but perl is just that
> handy...
> (what? no perl on the firewall? you're kidding? why not a firewall without
>
> a
> kernel. that would be
> really secure, no? ;-}).
>
> note that you can let your browser do part (or all) of the work for you:
> just click on the url and see which site it is contacting. however, this
> is
> not the safest method...
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 7:14 PM
> > To: mouss; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Speaking of blocking porn...
> >
> >
> > What are you (or others on this list) using to reformat cryptic
> > IP addresses
> > such as these? Is there a program to automate this, or is there a
> > mathematical formula?
> >
> > | -----Original Message-----
> > | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of mouss
> > | Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 8:37 AM
> > | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > | Subject: Re: Speaking of blocking porn...
> > |
> > | actually it matches the format http://user:password@ipaddress
> > | where ip address is 374393, which in quad-dots is 0.5.182.121
> (because
> > | 121+256*182+256*256*5 = 374393. however, 0.5.182.121 is a "reserved"
> > | address.
> > | so you should get nothing by trying to get the URL above.
> >
> >
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