For me passing any administrative data in the clear is unacceptable
and is prohibited by my employer.  Were I in your situation I would be
allowing ssh in/out to a specified internal host accessed by 
administrative staff only.

-Rich

On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, David Lang wrote:

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> for the commercial firewalls I use the provided tool, for the other
> machines I use a one-time password to get through the firewall to them. It
> isn't perfect (data can be sniffed), but I take the position that if I am
> doing my job correctly it wouldn't matter if my root passwords were
> posted, noone could get to where they could use them.
> 
> This is a decision I made based on my  perception of the relative risks
> between 
> 
> 1. someone goes to the efort of getting the passwords and then finds an
> application bug that gets them on the machine where they can use them (in
> which case they may be getting on as root anyway)
> 
> 2. inside people useing SSH to tunnel stuff through that I have no control
> over becouse "it's only for me and it's not really a risk anyway"
> 
> David Lang
> 
> 
> 
>  On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, Mark E. Drummond
> wrote:
> 
> > Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:38:06 -0400
> > From: Mark E. Drummond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: David Lang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: Firewalls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: ssh defeats the firewall
> > 
> > David Lang wrote:
> > > 
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> > > This is exactly the reason why I do not allow SSH through the firewalls I
> > > manage.
> > 
> > So do you do remote management of your UNIX boxen? If so, what do you
> > use?
> > 
> > -- 
> > Mark Drummond|ICQ#19153754|mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > UNIX System Administrator|Royal Military College of Canada
> > The Kingston Linux Users Group|http://signals.rmc.ca/klug/
> > Saving the World ... One CPU at a Time
> > 
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