as has already been hinted I think, does not ssh also allow one to acept
and deny connections on the order of tcpd?

Thanks,

Ron DuFresne


On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, Richard Noonan wrote:

> For me passing any administrative data in the clear is unacceptable
> and is prohibited by my employer.  Were I in your situation I would be
> allowing ssh in/out to a specified internal host accessed by 
> administrative staff only.
> 
> -Rich
> 
> On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, David Lang wrote:
> 
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > 
> > for the commercial firewalls I use the provided tool, for the other
> > machines I use a one-time password to get through the firewall to them. It
> > isn't perfect (data can be sniffed), but I take the position that if I am
> > doing my job correctly it wouldn't matter if my root passwords were
> > posted, noone could get to where they could use them.
> > 
> > This is a decision I made based on my  perception of the relative risks
> > between 
> > 
> > 1. someone goes to the efort of getting the passwords and then finds an
> > application bug that gets them on the machine where they can use them (in
> > which case they may be getting on as root anyway)
> > 
> > 2. inside people useing SSH to tunnel stuff through that I have no control
> > over becouse "it's only for me and it's not really a risk anyway"
> > 
> > David Lang
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, Mark E. Drummond
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:38:06 -0400
> > > From: Mark E. Drummond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: David Lang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Cc: Firewalls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Subject: Re: ssh defeats the firewall
> > > 
> > > David Lang wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > > > 
> > > > This is exactly the reason why I do not allow SSH through the firewalls I
> > > > manage.
> > > 
> > > So do you do remote management of your UNIX boxen? If so, what do you
> > > use?
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Mark Drummond|ICQ#19153754|mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > UNIX System Administrator|Royal Military College of Canada
> > > The Kingston Linux Users Group|http://signals.rmc.ca/klug/
> > > Saving the World ... One CPU at a Time
> > > 
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