On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Bennett Todd wrote:
> There aren't too many people as successfully vendor-neutral as mjr,
> but I can think of a couple I'd nominate. Of course I don't know if
> any of them might have any interest in taking on a chore of this
> magnitude. But definitely scoring (in my opinion) for points 1-3
> would be Steve Bellovin and Paul Robertson. I'm sure there are
> others I'd endorse if someone were to nominate them, but those are
> the names that leap to my mind.
Thanks for the recommendation. I've been considering this since the
demise of -wizards, but also trying to figure out how to have more volume
or more off-list assistance for newbies and better archives.
I'm currently negotiating with my employer to let me run a moderated
firewall-wizards-like list. I expect to have something up by
Wednesday if all goes well- or at least a firm decision (i.e. commited
dollars) by then (hopefully that's an accurrate estimate, not a
programmer's estimate.)
I'd hoped to have something started tomorrow, but given the time sink of a
moderated list, it's taking a bit of discussion over logistics and we've
got some other list-related stuff going on that might fit in with
increased involvement by me and others (read better coverage and not as
bursty as -wizards was and a commitment to doing it continuously.)
The tentative commitment is for at least 2 hours a day of my *real* time
to moderate, and probably more time for someone else to handle the
"rejects" pile gently (pointers to FAQs, more appropriate lists, etc.)
It'll also include proper backups, hosting, bandwidth, etc., as well as
continuous coverage if/when I'm out of town by experienced and trustworthy
folks.
> If we were to get some agreement on a proposed moderator to take
> over firewall-wizards, then the list could be resurrected. I dunno
> whether mjr would be willing to hand the subscriber list over, but
> if we were to set up a proposed new list, perhaps he'd at least be
> willing to post one final note to the old one announcing the new;
> and we could come up with a subscriber list that leaves out only the
> total lurkers by just building a list of everybody who has posted to
> the old firewall-wizards, from anybody's archives. I've got ones
> that go back for a few months, that'd probably be sufficient, since
> if you went back too far in time you'd be picking up (and so
> annoying) too many people who unsubscribed from firewall-wizards.
I'd probably just want people to subscribe themselves unless Marcus wants
to pass the list name and current subscribers on. We'll see how it
goes though. I'll try to get things moving faster tomorrow- like
everything else, there's give and take involved and I'm trying to get
things going in the take direction ;)
IOW: I'm trying to get this as a stable and funded exercise, not just a
spare-time thing. A lot of us miss firewall-wizards and Best-of-Security,
and we're trying to win arguments with the bean-couters over the utility
of hosting such a list. My impression was that everyone who needed to
nodded their heads on Friday- now it's just trying to get the details
ironed out.
Paul
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