To All so far,
>From all the preliminary inputs, it looks like we'll end up fielding some
of-the-shelf solution that will monitor and redirect the packets.  But I'm
still open for suggestions.
Michae Sorbera



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Subject: Re: Another option to Round Robin?


>
>
> On 07/25/2000 at 16:36:25 ZE2, "Volker Tanger"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Assumptions:
> >     MainWeb Server        1.1.1.1
> >     BackupWeb Server    2.2.2.2  (plus secondary IP address 1.1.1.1)
> >
> > Following options - plus a bunch of even more weird:
> >
> > 1.) ISP-sided routing.
> >     This will have to be implemented on your ISPs side and the routes
> > properly
> > distributed. You will
> >     have automagic failover wether the server or the link goes down.
> >         route 1.1.1.1  (via main site)  metric=1
> >         route 1.1.1.1  2.2.2.2  metric=5
> >
> > 2.) Load-Balancer  (I)
> >     You place a load balancer in front of the main web server. If the
> main
> > web
> > server goes down,
> >     it sends ICMP-redirects, redirecting the packets to the Backup Web
> > Server.
> > This won't help
> >     if the link goes down.
> >
> > 3.) Load-Balancer  (II)
> >     You place a load balancer in front of the main web server. If the
> main
> > web server goes down,
> >     it re-sends the packet with IP loose source routing via 2.2.2.2 back
> >     to the uplink router.
> >     This won't help if the link goes down.
> >
> > 4.) VPN / Tunneling
> >     If you don not have access to ISP sided routing, then create
> > aVPN/tunnel
> > between the two routers
> >     in front of the web servers. You set the following routes on the
> > routers:
> >         Main site router:
> >             route 1.1.1.1  connected  metric=1
> >             route 1.1.1.1  (via VPN to backup site)  metric=5
> >
> >         Backup site router:
> >             route 1.1.1.1  2.2.2.2  metric=1
> >
> >     But this won't help if the link goes down.
>
> Some clever and new (at least to me) ideas here, but I question whether
any
> of options 1-3 would work in the real world (I have no idea about option
> 4).
>
> Option 1 can only work if the redirector (the router with the secondary
> route to the backup address) is adjacent to the backup machine or if all
> routers on the path to the backup have routes pointing to the correct next
> hop (not to the target backup address - that's not the way routing works).
>
> Option 2, ICMP redirects.  No way.  First, a redirect means take another
> route, it doesn't mean go to another destination.  Second, the redirect
> must be sent all the way back to the originator (the client), but ICMP
will
> not reach many clients as it is filtered by many sites.  Third, sending a
> redirect still requires you to forward the packet to the correct
> destination.
>
> Option 3 - loose source routing is not obeyed in many parts of the
> Internet.  It may even be filtered by some.
>
> So, please let us know which of these you have successfully implemented.
>
> Tony Rall
>
>
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