I've found no product that can do network-based detection for 100+Mb
environments.  Currently we've decided on host-based IDS as our answer.
Both ISS and Axent's products can do similar management of multiple hosts
similar to network-based products including the ability to watch single
port-scans across multiple hosts, etc.  ISS and Axent are also
multi-platform.

- Aaron Schultz
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On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Johnson, Carl wrote:

> Bandwidth is an issue for me.  I'm told by Cisco that
> NetRanger (or Intrusion Detection System as it is called
> now) also cannot monitor more than 100mbs.
> 
> Does anything know of an IDS system that can go over 100mbs?
> Perhaps with a gig interface?  That is, if adequate monitoring
> is even possible with today's hardware at those speeds!
> 
> Thanks!
> Carl
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Aaron Schultz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 10:54 AM
> > To: Firewalls LIST
> > Subject: Re: Intrusion Detection
> > 
> > 
> > I wouldn't promote NFR...
> > 
> > They can't monitor much bandwidth...(ie: 100+Mbit)
> > When I asked about monitoring any amount of bandwidth they sent me to
> > voicemail and I wasn't called back until the sales associate 
> > decided it
> > was time to check to see if I had received answers to my various
> > questions.  Furthermore, they claim the only way to monitor a decent
> > amount of bandwidth is to put multiple NFR devices behind a 
> > foundry (or
> > similar) switch, although they don't have true answers on how 
> > the machines
> > coordinate their data when used seperately like this.
> > 
> > NFR also lists only DESKTOP devices (ie: Compaq PCs) on their 
> > literature,
> > not 1 piece of hardware listed was a decent server platform.
> > 
> > I never made it to their evaluation of their product - I find their
> > pre-sales support to be less than adequate.  Currently the 
> > best answers
> > for IDS (IMO) are:
> > - Internet Security System's products
> > - Axent's (now Norton's) product line
> > (both have Windows agents)
> > 
> > - Aaron Schultz
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> > 
> > On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Fabio Pietrosanti wrote:
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> > > Network Flight Recorder, run only on Unix, but it's the 
> > BEST and the most
> > > difficult to tune in my opinion. It use his N-Code for creating the
> > > Backend filter.
> > > look here http://www.nfr.net
> > > 
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> > 
> > On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Rob Serfozo wrote:
> > 
> > > We are investigating the installation of Intrusion Detection software.
> > > Wondering if the list had any opinions good or bad towards any product.
> We
> > > are hoping to be able to run on a Windows platform.  We are currently
> using
> > > a PIX firewall.
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Rob Serfozo
> > > 
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