Mikael Olsson wrote:
> 
> Graham Wheeler wrote:
> >
> > Mikael Olsson wrote:
> > >
> > > For the client side, passive FTP always provides better security.
> >
> > Unless it is a rogue client.
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > Put another way - with passive mode, you are more open to exploits from
> > the inside, while with active mode you are more vulnerable to exploits
> > from the outside.
> 
> Considering that inside users (processes, if you like) can always
> connect out through some means or another,

| sed s/always/mostly/

I know of sites where firewalls are protecting web servers and databases
which are accessible from outside and from inside - but other than that,
no traffic is allowed out through the firewall (i.e only incoming HTTP
is allowed). Another example might be a file repository that people on
the outside can upload to, but that should not allow anything out.

[Please note, Mike, I'm not suggesting that active FTP is better in the
latter case - although it might be, depending on the situation - just
that there are situations in which firewalls are deployed in which the
only allowed traffic is incoming].

> I'd rather have my
> firewall concentrate on keeping external Bad Guys out, rather than
> attempting to concentrate on the futile task of keeping internal Bad
> Guys inside.
> 
> ... but that's just my point of view, I guess ;)

Shared by most people in most situations, but there are (always)
exceptions. I was noting what the risks were; people can make their own
decisions based on these risks, and on their situation and requirements,
to decide which way they want to configure their FTP access.

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