Pretty much true, but the question was "Are Online Security Services that
charges lots of money really worth it?" not whatever you were answering.

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The opinions expressed above are my own.  The facts simply are and belong to
none. 
James W. Meritt, CISSP, CISA
Senior Secure Systems Engineer at Wang Government Services, Inc.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: mouss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 3:01 PM
> To: Meritt, Jim; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; Meritt, Jim;
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: hacker hiring (was RE: Online Security Services and
> Continuou s Risk Management
> 
> 
> This is true in an ideal world, however:
> 
> - customers are "stupid" (not that these are supid people, 
> but they may be 
> considered
> as stupid customers, in the sense that you can sell them 
> poducts using an 
> irrational approach).
> 
> - companies are not trying to maximize their situation, but 
> only to make it 
> better
> (there's a difference here)
> 
> - there is no effective way to judge people. you can only 
> ask'em questions, 
> hear'em
> talking, ... you can't get inside their brain.
> 
> so, the tree components (customer, company, employee) of the 
> system can 
> hrdly follow
> any rational model. Knowing that, you can hardly expect that 
> any of these 
> components
> will follow a rational process....
> 
> 
> you can hire a "hacker" if you "feel" it. It's the same as 
> the decision you 
> take
> when you see a girl/boy in a party. you might get excited and 
> think she/he 
> should
> be in your bed that night. Discovering later that she/he "was 
> not the one" 
> is an
> event that you could hardly predict....
> After all, you can only get "performance" if you abandon 
> "robustness". If 
> there is
> no risk, there is no reason to get paid...
> 
> 
> 
> mouss
> 
> 
> 
> At 11:46 23/08/00 -0400, Meritt, Jim wrote:
> >IF (a big "if"):
> >1. You can trust them with your entire being (say, you 
> AREN'T "secure" and
> >they find out exactly how and where you are most vulnerable)
> >2. They are as good as you think.
> 
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