At 14:56 23/08/00 -0400, Meritt, Jim wrote:
>Pretty much true, but the question was "Are Online Security Services that
>charges lots of money really worth it?" not whatever you were answering.

oops! I've been caught in the eye of the thread!

so now I feel obliged to give an opinion on the original question!
well, to tell you the truth, I don't have an "establsihed" opinion.
from one side, I don't like the fact that many customers pay money for
nothing (and the checks for free?). On the oher side, there are "well"
founded companies who try to make this world better. now, what is
making me confused is those honest companies that think they have something
to sell when they have nothing. whattado?

Anyway, I think the problem in "network security" is that this security 
depends on three factors:
- people decision to do something about
- people skill, so as to make sure that what will be done is to be done
- the tools to make it happen.

However, since "people" are a too complexe "object", we only hear of the 
latter, the tools.
everyone says the tools he provide are robust, performant, nice... none 
seems to reconsider
the people question. and when someone aks "how to secure my network", the 
answer seems to
always be "install this, uninstall that", while it should be "welcome guy. 
now there are things we
have to make sure you know and you wanna know; after that will come stuff 
that you will learn;
and at the end, we'll free your hands to taste all those tools that you've 
heard about".

back to the subject, there are two cases. If these people do seriously 
bring something to
a world full of firewalls, then let them explain and justif what they 
bring. If it is simply to tell
me that I should not trust my wall, then the discussion may take a little time!


regards,
mouss







>_______________________
>The opinions expressed above are my own.  The facts simply are and belong to
>none.
>James W. Meritt, CISSP, CISA
>Senior Secure Systems Engineer at Wang Government Services, Inc.

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