I didn't mean anything.. no toes stepped on, and I really didn't mean it
that way.  I just thought I might be able to provide some different insight
as to what those setups really are.

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From: Steven Pierce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 4:02 PM
To: Jarmoc, Jeff; Steve Coleman
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: ping activity originating from my home machine


Jeff,

OK.  I was just giving him a suggestion a possiable way it is showing
up.  Did not mean to step on any toes...

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On 1/8/2001 at 15:47 Jarmoc, Jeff wrote:

>Having worked as a PC tech in Best Buy a few years ago, I doubt this is the
>case.  When I was there we didn't even HAVE a network to test things on in
>the lab.  The freebie 'setups' consisted of little more than booting the
>machine up and getting it past all the 'Welcome to your computer' crap that
>manufacturers put on there, entering the Windows OEM codes, etc.  Other
than
>that we'd install printer drivers if it was bundled with a printer and
>that's about it.  It was more of a hassle for us to take the thing out of
>the box than it was worth, and a waste of the customer's time IMO.  I think
>the whole campaign is more marketing spin than anything, trying to show the
>customer how much Best Buy is doing to make their computing experience
>simpler.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Steven Pierce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 3:32 PM
>To: Steve Coleman
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: ping activity originating from my home machine
>
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>Steve,
>
>Since Best Buy set it up for you, it could be there network that is was
>used to check the box out.  So the machine is still thinking that it is 
>on BB Network.  Sorry, I do not have programs that I am aware that will
>check out what you want.  Sorry.
>
>S
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>On 1/8/2001 at 14:31 Steve Coleman wrote:
>
>>Steven Pierce wrote:
>>> 
>>
>>> So the first question would be when you opened the box, and turned on
the
>machine
>>> did it require you to go through a set up?  Or did it just come up
>without information
>>> being requested?
>>> 
>>> Who did you get the box from, local retail or HP direct?
>>
>>I bought it at 'Best Buy' which was offering a "free setup" service, I
>>guess so they could perform all the registration and install all the
>>'try this for free' type stuff. The box itself had not been re-packaged
>>but I have no idea what software they actually installed. Next time I'll
>>just set it up myself just as I have always done. That way I'll know
>>what has been done to it.
>>
>>I am fairly familiar with WinNT 4.0 but this Win2000 ME stuff is all new
>>to me. I have used ZoneAlarm on the box and did not see anything
>>suspicious trying to connect to the network, but the ping/ICMP traffic
>>is there. I would love to know how ZoneAlarm can figure out what
>>application is used for a given connection. I could then use the
>>information from the sniffer to figure this all out. Anybody know of any
>>tools that can identify the Application for a given port on WinME?
>>
>>-- 
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