Mikael,
Talk to your "friend" again (or read the e-mail message that I sent to the
list). The original e-mail message did not contain any reference BY ME to
your product or service.
My e-mail message was addressing criteria that I have encountered as to how
customers evaluate firewall vendors offerings.
Regards,
Brian
At 01:46 AM 2/14/2001 +0100, Mikael Olsson wrote:
>Very late response; I've been idling on my fw@gnac reading
>for the past couple of months (got 3500 unread posts now).
>
>This post just came to my attention by way of a friend
>(well, more than one, in fact), and I must say that I find
>it hilariously amusing to see an employee of a respectable
>multinational firewall vendor slander another vendor, by
>way of unfounded speculation and FUD in this manner.
>
>And, well, shoot me, but I just can't let these
>allegations go by unchallenged.
>
>(More below...)
>
>On December 4th, 2000, Brian Ford spake thusly:
> >
> > [about EnterNet Technologies and EnterNet FireWall]
> >
> > Their price may be realistic given what they provide.
> > What about support? I suppose they have someone who regularly
> > answers e-mail. Maybe a local phone number? Maybe a FAQ?
> >
> > That's good. They "dig up vulnerabilities". But do they
> > solve customers problems?
>
>If you'd done your homework, you'd know that the
>answer is, simply put, "yes", but since we haven't
>targeted the US market at all so far, I guess it's
>understandable.
>
>Actually, we've even been helping to solve the problems
>of _your_ customers, as your developers called me to
>discuss the FTP active mode vulnerabilities from last
>year (which, by the way, you haven't completely solved
>yet, I might add). I happily contributed my two cents,
>and will again if/when I or anyone else at EnterNet find
>something else alarming that concerns products from you
>and/or other vendors.
>
>After all, finding a vulnerability is one thing.
>Slandering a competitor because of it, or making unfair
>use of knowledge of said vulnerability is quite another.
>
>
>So, to sum this up, I hope we can stay away from the
>public mud slinging / pissing contest in the future. Should
>you feel compelled to discuss this further, you are very
>welcome to do so in private e-mail. And, I promise, should
>you somehow manage to convince me that we stink as bad as
>you made it out to look in your post, I will make public
>recompense and withdraw to a life of growing spuds, or
>somesuch.
>
>
>Regards,
>Mikael Olsson
>
>(Back to idling. I guess I'll find time to read
>all these fw@gnac posts _some_ day soon.)
>
>--
>Mikael Olsson, EnterNet Technologies
>Storgatan 12, Box 393, SE-891 28 ÖRNSKÖLDSVIK
>Phone: +46 (0)660 29 92 00 Mobile: +46 (0)70 66 77 636
>Fax: +46 (0)660 122 50 WWW: http://www.enternet.net
>
>On bosses and technology: "There are bosses who don't know, and there
>are bosses who don't know that they don't know" /Anonymous techie
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