At 08:31 02/03/01 -0800, Devin L. Ganger wrote:
>I beg to differ.  I've clearly tracerouted *through* private address
>spaces.  The trick is that the target of the traceroute can't be the
>private address -- but I'm not so sure I'd want folks to be using my
>routers as the targets of their pings, traceroutes, etc. anyway.

assume my IP address is 10.0.0.1, and that of your router is 10.0.0.1.
I can't send you any message, so I can't traceroute over your router.

If I can traceroute through your router, then I can ping, telnet and the rest.
If I can't, there is no reason my traceroute returns your address.

In other words, you either declare your router to be usable by others 
(traceroute,
routing, ..) and thus give it a public address, or make it invisible for 
us, and then
using any addresse space you want, as far as I don't see it.

cheers,
mouss

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