i thought a firewall WAS a content filter?
i don't understand please elucidate

On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, David Ishmael wrote:

> Yeah, I've heard the same thing.  From my understanding, the best solution
> is to have a firewall AND a content filtering tool.  You should never use a
> content filter as a means of firewalling a network.  From what I've read,
> doing a firewall/filter solution is secure (if there is such a thing). ;)
> 
> David Ishmael, CCNA, IVCP
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron DuFresne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 4:26 PM
> To: David Ishmael
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> Subject: RE: Content Filtering
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> 
> Perhaps I've mised updates and such, but, I was of the understanding that
> all these sweet little content filters for the web were susecptable to url
> obfuscations that allowed one to bypass them.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ron DuFresne
> 
> 
> On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, David Ishmael wrote:
> 
> > Richard,
> >
> > Are you looking for a stand-alone application or a combination of
> > firewall/content filter?  We ran a PIX firewall for a firewall and used (I
> > think it was called) WebTrends.  The speed was in how it worked.  The
> > firewall would get a packet destined for bad-site.com and would send the
> > packet on as well as a packet to WebTrends asking for the acceptance
> policy.
> > By the time the response came back from bad-site.com it had already gotten
> a
> > response from WebTrends to either permit or deny responses from that site.
> > If it was allowed the response passed through the firewall, if not the
> user
> > was sent a custom URL that said that the site was restricted.  Highly
> > configurable and fast...
> >
> > I'm sure there are ton's of good stand-alone solutions out there...good
> > luck!  ;)
> > David Ishmael, CCNA, IVCP
> > Senior Network Management Engineer
> > Windward Consulting Group, Inc.
> > Phone: (703) 283-7564
> > Pager: (888) 910-7094
> > eFax: (425) 969-4707
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> >   -----Original Message-----
> >   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard Ginski
> >   Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 2:11 PM
> >   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >   Subject: Content Filtering
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> >
> >   Hello Everyone,
> >
> >   Sorry in advance for being slightly off topic.
> >   We are an organization of approximately 4000 users. I have been asked to
> > find a technology which can prevent users from browsing bad sites. I am
> > somewhat familiar with content filtering products. However, my biggest
> fear
> > is latency. Can anyone recommend who I should check out regarding content
> > filtering products?
> >
> >   PS: If it also prevented the execution of harmful (only harmful) JAVA
> > based and Active X based code..it would be a plus.
> >
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