One thing about egress filtering which I noted recently.

If the leaf node is using VPN software, you may be in for a surprise!

At least one major vendor of VPN client software performs the Virtual
functions by re-writing the source address of the packet:

Mobile PC: -A-
VPN Gateway: -B-
Protected Server: -C-

Communicating from -A- to -C- via -B-:
On A:
Packet 1:
SRC: A
DST: B

Packet 2:
SRC: -C-
DST: B

This product rewrites the packet so that the gateway sees an incomming
packet with the final destination as the source!
(Not very nice eh?)

Regards,
        Crispin Harris

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul D. Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, 10 June 2001 11:59 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: This is a must read document. It will freak you out
> 
> 
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >   Egress filtering at border points is appropriate for leaf 
> networks. 
> 
> Which is exactly what I'm proposing.
> 
> >  Many ISPs, though, also ferry third-party traffic between their 
> > peering points; it would be inappropriate for them to 
> accept traffic 
> > that an egress rule elsewhere will prevent them from delivering.
> 
> Egress rules don't prevent anything from being delivered if 
> the egress is 
> legitimate.
> 
> >   This isn't to day that it can't or shouldn't be done, only that 
> > determining how much filtering should be done, and at which 
> routers, 
> > may be less simple for multi-homed ISPs than it sounds.
> 
> Once again, I'm stressing that end-user network filtering be the
> major point of egress filtering, not ISP networks.
> 
> ISPs can do fairly easy filtering based on prefixes they transit or
> announce, but I agree with the contention that the 
> aggragation of traffic
> is too much at those points to not affect performance by 
> filtering in the 
> transit space. ISP's hosting networks should, of course employ egress
> filtering, but in that case, they're acting as a leaf node, 
> not a transit
> entity.
> 
> Paul
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