hi ben...

its a simplified drawing...

am just saying that if someone wants  www.foo.com ( 1.2.3.4 ) to
be routed via isp#1..... 
they can not also have www.foo.com routed by isp#2

if they want incoming traffic for www.foo.com to arrive from
either  isp#1 or isp#2... they'd need to be using "autonomous"(?)
ip# that is routable by BOTH isp
 
for outgoing traffic...thats locally handled by ifconfig and metric
for the route

i combined the "gateway" into the firewall...
        - one box that converts local internal LAN as a gateway
        to either isp...

nothing fancy in this config... other than the same routable ip#
by two different ISPs  to get to the same www.foo.com
        - the two isp can figure out amongst them self who
        can delivery that traffic at that instant ... i dont know
        what protocol they use ...

have fun
alvin

On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Ben Nagy wrote:

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alvin Oga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 10:53 AM
> > To: Byron Kennedy
> > Cc: 'Laris Benkis'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
> > '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: Multi-homed Internet connection
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > hi ya
> > 
> > > Something like this:
> > > 
> > >  Inside---FW with Nat -----router-----------First Provider
> > >           to 1st Prov        |
> > >           addr space         |
> > >                            Traffic natted
> > >                            to 2nd provider's
> > >                            addr space
> > >                              |
> > >                              +--------------Second Provider
> > 
> > I'd try/prefer the following
> > 
> >            +-------------+
> >            |             |
> >            |             +-----router--- First Provider
> >            |    FW       |
> >   Inside---+             |
> >            | w/ NAT      |
> >            |             +-----router--- Second Provider
> >            |             |
> >            +-------------+
> > 
> > if the router or first provider goes down... i can still get
> > in and out thru the 2nd provider..
> 
> I think that either you've left one or two things out of that diagram, or
> that it won't work.
> 
> 1. How does the firewall route to both ISPs? Most firewalls only support
> very simple routing protocols (and certainly not BGP, in most cases). I have
> seen some Crazy Hairbrained Schemes which involve NAT'ing the entire
> Internet _inbound_ on both routers (into different pools) and having the
> outbound gateway selected using some dynamic routing protocol. It works, but
> let's not go there.
> 
> 2. If you're only NAT'ing into one pool then you can't make that diagram
> 'work' without using BGP - the rest of the Internet will not route to your
> external IP range through the backup provider if the primary one falls over.
> 
> > if i have "autonomous"(?) ip#... both ISPs can route incoming
> > and outgoing traffic
> 
> Sounds like you're obliquely referring to BGP AS's? 
> 
> > thanx
> > alvin
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> --
> Ben Nagy
> Network Security Specialist
> Marconi Services Australia Pty Ltd
> Mb: +61 414 411 520  PGP Key ID: 0x1A86E304 
> 

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