Just tell your user community that it's a security issue. After all what
are they doing browsing the domains and workgroups anyway?

As long as "net use" works successfully (especially by computer name and
not IP address) I don't really see an issue. It seems to me to be an
education issue with management that browsing is important.

So... how are your political workplace skills?

Marc

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 11:54 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: VPN issue 
> 
> 
> 1.  NetBEUI is broadcast; NetBIOS is not *necessarily* so.
> 
> 2.  Browsing is not really a NetBIOS thing, and (definitely* doesn't 
> depend on WINS.
> 
>   Browsing depends on the client's ability to locate a "browse 
> master" on the current segment for its domain/workgroup.  If it 
> can't, it will call for an "election" to fill this role.  
> 
>   My experience with the Altiga/Cisco 30xx VPn boxes was that NT/2000 
> clients were able to browse the internal domain after a brief delay.  
> Windows 9x clients never managed to do this.
> 
>   Since Windows 9x *were* able to mount internal shares via the "net 
> use" command line (which *does* us NetBIOS and WINS), we didn't sweat 
> the fact that browsing never worked.  Since it worked fine for 
> NT/2000 clients, we assumed the defect was in Win 9x itself and not 
> in our VPN configuration.
> 
> DG
> 
> 
> On 22 Jan 2002, at 18:09, Andrew J. Caird wrote:
> 
> > Tim,
> >   Browsing Windows networks is a NetBIOS function, and that
> >   is, as I understand it, a broadcast protocol.  For VPNs to
> >   work, your network is different from the other network
> >   (the office in your case), and broadcasts don't cross
> >   subnet boundaries unless there is something to help them
> >   do so.
> > 
> >   One option is to put a WINS server in each location, and
> >   share NetBIOS information between the WINS servers.  This
> >   is probably a bit much for your home.
> > 
> >   Another option (and I'm reaching here) is to use what some
> >   firewalls offer (not sure about Cisco, I think Checkpoint
> >   does) to solve this problem; you get handed an address
> >   internal to the network and it does some NAT stuff and it
> >   looks like you are on the network, and you'll see the
> >   NetBIOS broadcasts and all will be well.  Again, I'm sure
> >   someone else on this list can expand on/correct these
> >   statements.  
> > 
> >   Another option is to use a NetBIOS "helper"; some switches
> >   have this (which won't help you with your VPN problems,
> >   but it may clear up the concept for you a little).  You
> >   might look into Samba, who's nmbd can forward WINS
> >   information across subnets; see in particular the "wins
> >   server" stanza in the smb.conf file and smb.conf(5) if you
> >   look at this option.
> > 
> >   Hope this helps.
> > --
> > Andrew Caird                                Uniphied Thought
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