Hi all,

test Astaro Security Linux, and you will see, that this firewall stands
up against the proprietary systems, and performs on normal PCs often
better than the competitors, at a fraction of the price. I am using it
to my companies full satisfaction.

I recommend to download the free evaluation version from Astaro�s site,
before continuing the theoratical discussion.

Klaus

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Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 2:48 AM
To: Joe Matuscak; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FW: FW: Win2kAdvance Server


Fellow Hacks,

I hate to throw gas on a fire, but I have been a Linux user for years. I

have seen
so many e-mails flying over the alias (this one included) about this
scam 
called
"open source". We have seen all the bird cage liners touting the
socialist 
revolution
of open source! Blah Blah Blah.

Ok Linux dude's and dudette's. If Linux is so open, how come ONE man
owns the right to the kernel and ONE man and his very few associates
develop said kernel

How is this open?

How is this ANY different that what the clowns in Redmond Washington do?

Whats to keep El Linux boy from caving and selling the rights to the
linux kernel for 10 Billion big ones?

Sorry for the grenade but it has to be asked!

M




At 05:10 PM 2/1/2002, Joe Matuscak wrote:
>On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Marc Sahr wrote:
>
> > Well, it may be free, but consider this: Linux is open source, 
> > right? Anyone who wants to can figure out the holes that exist (and 
> > yes, they do exist) and exploit them, since the source is available 
> > to all. This is of course true with ANY firewall. A programmer that 
> > writes code for a specific firewall product would know the holes 
> > that exist, and could exploit them.
>
>And peer review increases the chances of those problems being located
>*before* the bad guys. Its called the "crystal box" Vs the "black box" 
>debate .
>
> > Bottom line: No product is foolproof, they all have their repective 
> > strengths and weaknesses.
>
>True enough.
>
> > Linux as a firewall or server platform? It's OK for your home 
> > network, but not for real business application. Yes some have done 
> > this, yes IBM is now promoting it (so what?) but who cares? Free? 
> > You get what you pay for.
>
>So have you actually ever used a Linux system in production?
>
>
>Joe Matuscak
>Rohrer Corporation
>717 Seville Road
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